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Adam Arkfeld znaleźć, Site # 44FK731, Clear Brook, Virginia</div>
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„Uśmiechnięty kamienny figowiec” z dwoma nozdrzami w detalach twarzy. Może postać jest przedstawiana jako „mrugając”. Być może taką postacią była dziecięca nowość lub zabawka, rodzaj paleolitycznej postaci „Casper the Friendly Ghost”. Adam Arkfeld opisuje to jako mający purpurowy odcień, który może być resztkami pigmentu.</div>
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Zenobiusz http://www.blogger.com/profile/17593381030988771709noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528385702135826.post-90895583031785595602018-10-17T15:09:00.001+02:002018-10-17T15:09:48.605+02:00Kobiety naszych praprzodków ...ciąg dalszy.Znajdowane rzeźbki sa bardzo trudne do sfotografowania przez amatora.Pierwotnie ujawniały swój przekaz w półmroku,być może przy ognisku bedąc osnową opowieści przechodzączych z pokolenie na pokoleniie .niosły ze soba SŁOWO.<br />
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Zenobiusz http://www.blogger.com/profile/17593381030988771709noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528385702135826.post-90899622678702917372018-10-16T10:48:00.001+02:002018-10-16T10:49:32.420+02:00Kobieta u naszych praprzodków a u sąsiadów.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<b>Nie naga tłusta kobieta ,a matka i dziecko,rodzice i dziecko.Chłopak i dziewczyna jedyna rodzina od zarania dziejów.I coś jeszcze ale na to czytelnicy wpadną chyba sami.</b></div>
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Zanim zaczniemy się zastanawiać nad tak postawionym pytaniem, jeszcze jedna zagadka sprzed tysiącleci – wydawać by się mogło, że stosunkowo dobrze zbadana przez naukę - wyginięcie mamutów. Specyficzne okoliczności, w jakich odnajdują się ich szczątki, dały asumpt do dużo szerszych, ciekawych, nieudowodnionych jeszcze, acz i nie sfalsyfikowanych zarazem hipotez.<br />
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Przyjmuje się, że ostatnie mamuty na stałym lądzie wyginęły około 10 tysięcy lat temu. Niewielka populacja mamutów przetrwała dłużej, bo do ok. 4000 lat temu, na Wyspie Wrangla położonej na Oceanie Arktycznym, między Morzem Wschodniosyberyjskim a Morzem Czukockim, i oddzielonej od kontynentu Cieśniną De Longa. Mamuty, które tam przetrwały, uległy skarłowaceniu i były ostatecznie wielkości tylko nieco większej od konia.<br />
Istnieją jednak także przekazy, które mogłyby świadczyć o przetrwaniu pojedynczych stad mamucich do czasów nam współczesnych na niezaludnionych obszarach tundry syberyjskiej. Są to opowieści pilotów wojskowych z czasów II wojny światowej . Niestety nie da się ich zweryfikować.<br />
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Szczególnie liczne pozostałości mamutów były i są wciąż odnajdywane na terenach Syberii. Zwykle są to ich kości i długie kły, czyli tzw. ciosy, lecz zdarzając się także odkrycia kompletnych ciał zwierzęcych, czasem z zachowanym futrem, a nawet częściami miękkimi – jak mięśnie i skóra. Pierwszy taki mamut został znaleziony w 1901 roku nad brzegami rzeki Bieriezowka. Ostatni – w 2007 roku nad rzeką Juribej na Półwyspie Jamalskim.<br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img18/4552/93bp.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img35/9181/2bel.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img22/7794/gw0z.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><small style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Na zdjęciach - poszukiwacze mamucich szczątków.</em></small> <small style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Photo: Evgenia Arbugaeva</small><br /><br />I teraz właśnie zaczyna się prawdziwa zagadka.<br />Ciała mamutów znajdowane są w wiecznej zmarzlinie, niejako „zatopione” w lodzie. Często lokalizowane są w dziwnych wzgórzach, o wysokości od 10 do 90 metrów, które rosyjscy naukowcy nazwali Jedomami. W jednym z nich odnaleziono szczątki aż 156 mamutów. Jedomy ukrywają także w swoim wnętrzu wiele złamanych drzew. Gleba w Jedomach jest podobna do błota, bogata w sól i węglan i jest poprzedzielana lodem, przy czym jest to dziwny rodzaj lodu, który został nazwany „kamiennym lodem”. Jego warstwy najłatwiej jest zauważyć na urwisku wzdłuż arktycznego wybrzeża i wzdłuż rzek. Niektóre z nich mają po 50 metrów grubości i ciągną się nawet na długość 2,5 kilometra. Przykrywająca je warstwa gliny lub mułu jest jednorodna, czyli nie składa się z wielu cienkich warstw, jak to ma miejsce w przypadku osadów naniesionych przez rzeki lub jeziora i sprawia wrażenie, że została naniesiona jednorazowo.<br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img513/5808/ovki.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><br />Tak grube warstwy lodu utrzymujące się pod warstwą gleby nie powinny dziwić. Wystarczy spojrzeć choćby na lód, jaki potrafi się tworzyć w czasie zimy na jeziorze Bajkał (zdjęcie poniżej).<br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img836/8200/4rtx.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><br />Znajdowane w tym lodzie mamuty wyglądają jakby <strong style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">zostały zamrożone w przeciągu zaledwie kilku godzin</strong>, ponieważ nie stwierdzono procesów gnilnych, a ich ciała są czasem w tak dobrym stanie, że można ustalić treść ich żołądków, która nie zdążyła zostać strawiona. Ta treść zresztą też zdumiewa, bo zachowane gatunki resztek roślinnych wskazują, że tuż przed zamrożeniem warunki pogodowe wcale nie były arktyczne. Czy to możliwe?<br />W zamarzniętych lasach Arktyki - na przykład na Alasce - występują między innymi sekwoje. Drzewa te rozwijać się mogą jedynie w klimacie wilgotnym i ciepłym, a w żadnym wypadku pod arktycznymi szerokościami geograficznymi (magazyn „Time", 22 września 1986, s. 64 i J.F. Bazinger: Our „ tropical" Arctic, „Canadian Geographic", t. 106/6, s. 2837,1986/1987).<br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img42/8724/rq37.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><small style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Mamut znaleziony w bryle lodowej i wraz z nią transportowany</em></small> <small style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Photo: by Devi on December 31, 2008</small><br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img822/7139/gz5p.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><small style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">A tutaj mamut wystawiony na ekspozycji muzealnej</em></small><br /><br /><br />A oto opisy dwóch bardzo dziwnych, kompletnie niewytłumaczalnych znalezisk. Oba z nich wydają się być powiązane z owymi niezrozumiale błyskawicznie zamarzającymi mamutami. Każdy z tych przypadków sugeruje natychmiastowe zamrożenie rzeki, tak gwałtowne, że pływające w niej zwierzęta zostają również zamrożone razem z nią.<br /><br />Pierwszy został opublikowany przez byłego członka Sowieckiej Akademii Nauk, a przypomniał ten raport Aleksander Sołżenicyn w przedmowie do swojego „Archipelagu Gułag”, który natrafił na ów raport w roku 1949. Raport ten donosił, iż <em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">„w roku 1942 podczas budowy drogi w Liglikhtakha, dolinie rzeki (Basen Kołyma), odkrywka za pomocą materiałów wybuchowych otworzyła podziemną "soczewkę" przejrzystego lodu zawierającego uwięzione wewnątrz wielkie okazy ryb. Najwyraźniej eksplozja usunęła wierzchnią warstwę odsłaniając antyczne koryto rzeki wraz z przedstawicielami starożytnej fauny ichtiologicznych ryb. Kierownik budowy w sporządzonym raporcie stwierdził, że znalezione ryby cechowały się niezwykłą świeżością! Kawałki mięsa rozrzucone przez wybuch zostały zjedzone przez obecnych na miejscu robotników..."</em><br />Sołżenicyn nie zajmował się badaniem prehistorii, a ów raport przypomniał po to, by uświadomić czytelnika, że nie chodziło o zwykłych robotników, ale o <em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">zeków, </em>czyli więźniów łagra, bo tylko ich przerażający głód mógł zmusić do pożerania <em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">„tysiącletniego ścierwa”.</em><br />Owego znaleziska nie udało się więc uchronić dla nauki tym bardziej, że i czasy nie były po temu sprzyjające, bo wojenne.<br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img89/534/jhfc.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><small style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">(z <a href="http://www.creationscience.com/" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgb(70, 167, 226); color: #1f4f82; outline: none;">www.creationscience.com</a>)</small><br /><br />Drugi raport pochodzi z Tybetu, z roku 1846, od podróżnika i misjonarza, M. Huc'a, który wraz ze swoją ekipą w momencie przekraczania rzeki Mouroui-Ousso, zaobserwował niezwykłe widowisko.<br /><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">"..Podczas gdy jeszcze w obozowisku obserwowaliśmy w dali kilka bezkształtnych obiektów znajdujących się w korycie rzeki wszystko pozostawało bez zmian, gdy się zbliżaliśmy w ich kierunku postacie pozostawały w bezruchu, jednak gdy się zbliżyliśmy bardziej rozpoznaliśmy w nich stado dzikich wołów. Stado liczyło ponad pięćdziesiąt osobników, a wszystkie z nich były zastygłe w lodzie. Nie ulegało wątpliwości, że stado próbowało przepłynąć rzekę w czasie błyskawicznego procesu zamrożenia, proces ten był tak szybki, że nie były zdolne do wydobycia się z lodu. Ich piękne głowy, zwieńczone pięknymi rogami były nad powierzchnią lodu, jednak ich ciała znajdowały się uwięzione w lodzie, który był tak przezroczysty, iż widzieliśmy przez niego pozycje w jakiej znajdowały się zwierzęta, wyglądały tak jakby wciąż płynęły, jednak orły i kruki wydziobały im oczy..."</em><br /><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img854/733/y97u.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></em><br /><small style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">(z <a href="http://www.creationscience.com/" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgb(70, 167, 226); color: #1f4f82; outline: none;">www.creationscience.com</a>)</small><br /><br />Obserwując stopniowe zamarzanie jezior i rzek, nie sposób sobie wyobrazić, jak ten proces mógł się dokonać tak nagle, by uwięzić płynące stado albo zamrozić duże ryby tak szybko, by ich mięso pozostało świeże. Czy stało się to dokładnie tak samo jak z zamrożonymi mamutami? Czy można to w ogóle jakoś próbować wyjaśnić?<br />Istnieje pewna teoria, zwana „teorią hydropłyt”, której twórcą jest Walt Brown. Walt Brown jest absolwentem West Point, otrzymał doktorat z inżynierii mechanicznej MIT, uzyskał profesurę w Akademii Sił Powietrznych USA, prowadzi kursy matematyki i informatyki. Hydropłyty to w ujęciu wspomnianej teorii nic innego, jak płyty nawodne, czyli płyty, z których zbudowana jest skorupa ziemska, niejako ślizgająca się na warstwie wody. Teoria ta tłumaczy nie tylko przedstawione wyżej zjawiska, ale także cały szereg innych znalezisk, w tym skamieniałości. <strong style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Hekatombę wielu gatunków miał spowodować ni mniej ni więcej… potop.</strong><br />A oto co mówi Walt Brown.<br />Na Ziemi przed potopem był tylko jeden duży kontynent pokryty bujną wegetacją; były tam morza i rzeki oraz góry nieco niższe niż obecne. Istniała też olbrzymia ilość wód podziemnych - około połowy całej wody, która jest w dzisiejszych oceanach. Woda ta mieściła się w wewnętrznych, połączonych ze sobą komorach, które tworzyły swego rodzaju szelf o grubości ok. 800 metrów i ok. 16 km pod powierzchnią ziemi. Rosnące ciśnienie wód podziemnych rozciągało skorupę ziemską, aż nastąpiło jej rozerwanie, które zaczęło się od mikroskopijnego pęknięcia i rozrosło się w obu kierunkach w tempie ok. 17 tysięcy km/godz.. Powstałe pęknięcie okrążyło cały glob w ok. 2 godziny. <br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img716/5078/epwi.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><br />Wody podziemne, poddane potężnemu ciśnieniu wytworzonemu pod wpływem napierającej z góry warstwy skał, wytrysnęły z pęknięcia z niesamowitą siłą, która nadała tej fontannie wody prędkość ponaddźwiękową i wyniosła ją do atmosfery na wysokość ponad 30 km. Rozpylając się, woda ta spadła na ziemię w postaci gigantycznych opadów deszczu, ale ponieważ tryskając w górę zamarzła w temperaturze – 180 st. Celsjusza, spadała także w postaci zmrożonego błota i gradu, grzebiąc żywe istoty w bardzo krótkim czasie.<br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img836/7476/m1hy.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><br />Wiele znalezisk szczątków wskazuje na uduszenie i kompresję zwierząt – przykładem jest tu choćby najbardziej znany młody mamut, nazwany przez badaczy Dima, który wygląda, jakby był sprasowany. Pękające skały dały olbrzymią masę osadów, które spowodowały utworzenie się skamielin.<br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img19/8807/ceuf.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><small style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 11.05px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Zdjęcie młodego mamuta Dimy</small></em><br /><br /><br />Tutaj potrzebne jest dodatkowe wyjaśnienie. Tworzenie się skamielin, czyli proces fosylizacji, jest procesem bardzo długim, trwającym tysiące lat. Trudno jest wytłumaczyć, w jaki sposób mogły powstać skamieliny delikatnych roślin, skrzydeł owadów czy meduz, których tkanka wszak rozkłada się błyskawicznie. Musiały wcześniej zostać czymś „utrwalone”. Teoria kosmicznego potopu tłumaczy to zjawisko tym, że zostały one przygniecione masą błota, które odcięło dostęp tlenu i uniemożliwiło działanie bakterii. Następnie woda zaczęła przedostawać się do tkanek, rozpuszczała zawarty w nich materiał organiczny i stopniowo zastępowała go krzemionką.<br />Odkryto tysiące skamielin wyraźnie wskazujących na to, że zwierzęta zostały pogrzebane żywcem. Wiele z nich nie zdążyło jeszcze strawić pokarmu, inne miały połamane kości, a zwierzęta zamieszkujące wody były wciąż w pozycjach pływackich.<br />A oto przykłady ryb "zaskoczonych" w trakcie konsumowania i trawienia pożywienia.<br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img802/6526/yyrh.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><br /><img alt="" src="https://imageshack.com/a/img691/2439/1h63.jpg" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;"><br /><br /><br />Wypada dodać, że sam Walt Brown tego nie sugeruje, ale osoby o wybujałej wyobraźni doszukują się w tej katastrofie objawów eksplozji nuklearnej, wytaczając dodatkowy dowód w postaci olbrzymiego krateru Lonar usytuowanego w Indiach, około czterysta kilometrów na północny-wschód od Bombaju. Krater ten ma średnicę prawie 2 kilometrów i powstał w bazaltowej skale. Nie znaleziono niczego, co wskazywałoby na to, iż krater powstał w wyniku uderzenia meteorytu, choć są ślady działania olbrzymich ciśnień i niezmiernie wysokiej temperatury.</div>
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Pat Frank, amerykański ekspert w dziedzinie programów kosmicznych między innymi na tej podstawie sformułował teorię głoszącą, iż tego typu kratery mogą być śladami potężnych eksplozji nuklearnych.<br /><br /> </div>
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Bardzo to wszystko ciekawe - w szczególności dla laika w dziedzieni biologii (tutaj, konkretnie, paleontologii), którym pozostaje piszący ten komentarz. :)<br />Tym przyjemniej czyta mi się Twoje notki - na naukę nigdy nie jest za późno.</div>
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Ja także jestem w tych kwestiach laikiem. Jeden semestr archeologii i dwa zdane w tym zakresie egzaminy, to jeszcze żadna wiedza :)<br />Ale może własnie dlatego, że jestem laikiem, nie czuję się skrępowana przez ustalenia dzisiejszej paleontologii i daję upust swojej wrodzonej "ciekawskości" drążąc to, czego do końca nie rozumiem :)<br />Jeśli jeszcze dla kogoś, poza mną samą, jest to ciekawe, to mnie tylko może cieszyć.<br /><br />Ale paleontologię na razie już odkładam. Przygotowuję dwie kolejne notki, lecz tym razem już dużo bliższe naszym czasom. I mam nadzieję, że też mogą się komuś wydać ciekawe :)<br /> </div>
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Podobne rzeczy mówi Hovind, ale on podlewa to zbyt jednoznacznym sosem.<br />Nie żebym się nie zgadzał z kreacjonizmem, ale ten ton: "Sześć tysięcy lat temu..."<br />No dobrze! Stworzył. Ale dlaczego postarzył parę drobiazgów tak, żeby wyglądały na ponad sześć tysięcy?...<br /><br />Myliłby się, kto wierzyłby w niepodważalność naukowych metod. Pomiary doraźne są odnoszone do krzywych wzorcowych, uznanych zazwyczaj bezkrytycznie za coś w rodzaju aksjomatu. Mając wyniki pomiarów młody badacz szuka sposobu, jak je zinterpretować. Zazwyczaj same się nie dadzą. Znajduje więc odpowiedni wzorzec, nanosi wyniki na wykres, znaleziony w jakiejś publikacji, odczytuje rzędną, lub odciętą i podaje do wiadomości w kolejnej publikacji. Nie weryfikując tej pierwotnej (a może wcale nie pierwotnej).<br />Krzywe wzorcowe są tworzone na podstawie dokładnych pomiarów. Bardzo dokładnych! Czasem tak dokładnych, że trzeba odrzucić niektóre wyniki, bo nie pasują…<br />Potem te krzywe wzorcowe uznaje się za niepodważalne, bo większość wyników jest zgodna z... oczekiwaniem.<br />A oczekiwania są różne. Bo grant, bo Nobel, bo ilość cytowań, bo trzeba kończyć doktorat, bo żona chce iść do pracy, sama, albo z kimś… Bo last but not least środowisko, które odrzuci naukowca, jeżeli naukowiec nie odrzuci tych paru niepotrzebnych przecież nikomu wyników.<br /><br />Krzywe wzorcowe nigdy nie przecinają wszystkich punktów, przechodzą obok – najbliżej jak się badaczowi wydaje. Weryfikuje to potem analizą błędu. Ale czasem ma tylko trzy punkty, albo cztery, a przez trzy punkty (albo cztery) nawet prostej nie da się przeprowadzić, bo nie wiadomo jak: może tak, a może tak, a może pod troszkę innym kątem? A co dopiero krzywą<br />Potem ten kąt zamienia się w miliony lat, czasem miliony lat świetlnych.<br />I już nie wolno nawet myśleć o weryfikacji.<br />-Miliony lat! Kto to słyszał, żeby podważać takie liczby?!<br /><br />Jak już kiedyś pisałem: mam swoje Waterloo. W roztworze były jony siarczanów i baru. Jednocześnie. W ilości wykrywalnej metodą strąceniową. Siarczany najlepiej strąca jon baru, a bar strącają jony siarczanowe. Powszechnie uznaje się, że siarczan baru (obrzydlistwo łykane „u rentgena” do zdjęć kontrastowych) jest substancją nierozpuszczalną w wodzie. A w moim roztworze były, i siarczany i bar. Próbka zadana wodorotlenkiem baru mętniała, podobnie jak pobrana z tego samego miejsca i w tym samym czasie próbka zadana pirosiarczanem potasowym. Raz, drugi, piąty, siódmy… <br />Profesorowie kręcili głowami, doktorzy wzruszali ramionami. Tylko magistrowie próbowali jeszcze coś wymyślić. Nie wymyślili.<br />I tak zostałem ze swoją podważoną wiarą w naukę.<br /> </div>
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Bezbrzeżna, niczym nie wzruszona wiara w naukę jest, moim zdaniem, błędem. Nauka jest bardzo przydatna, ale warto mieć świadomość, że w jakiś sposób ograniczają ją nasze własne - ludzkie - możliwości intelektualne.<br />Warto zatem pozostawić sobie ten margines na bycie niedowiarkiem i współczesny sobie stan wiedzy traktować jedynie jako pewien etap w jej rozwoju :)<br />To własnie do niedowiarków należą przełomowe odkrycia w nauce.<br />To uważany za obsesjonata Schliemann odkrył Troję, a nie żaden z badaczy przekonanych o tym, że jest ona jedynie fikcją literacką wymyśloną przez Homera i Wergiliusza.</div>
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ze wstydem, że przy naukach przyrodniczych - bo paleontologia chyba do takich należy - wymiękam całkowicie <img alt="blush" src="https://blog-n-roll.pl/sites/all/modules/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/embarrassed_smile.png" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: 23px; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top; width: 23px;" title="blush" />.<br />Humanistyczne - jak najbardziej, matematyka, fizyka - bardzo ciekawe, ale przyrodnicze.... łomatkojedyna!<br />Ellenai, Ro - kapelusz z głowy, a z kota robi się dywanik <img alt="wink" src="https://blog-n-roll.pl/sites/all/modules/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/wink_smile.png" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: 23px; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top; width: 23px;" title="wink" /></div>
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Po Dniu Kota Kot przesatał być potrzebny?! No coś takiego! Tego Kocie po Tobie bym się nie spodziewał...<img alt="wink" src="https://blog-n-roll.pl/sites/all/modules/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/wink_smile.png" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; font-size: 0px; height: 23px; line-height: 0; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top; width: 23px;" title="wink" /><br />To było na marginesie, ale jakże ważnym bo w obronie kotów.<br />A teraz zasadnicza treść mojego komentarza:<br />Ellenai bardzo przystępne i pouczające proszę i wnoszę o więcej!<br />Serdecznie pozdrawiam<br /><br />...dywanik z kota...no kto by pomyslał...z kota...</div>
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Choć matematyka budzi mój bezbrzeżny szacunek, fizyka zaciekawienie, a chemia uśmiech, to historia uczy pokory.<br />Prawdziwa Historia - prawdziwej Pokory.</div>
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Czyli jakaś cywilizacja równolegle z mamutami? Mamutów pełno a cywilizacji ani dudu? :)<br /><br /><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">"(..) nieprawdziwy jest szeroko rozpowszechniony pogląd o tym, że przyczyną ich zagłady był nagły spadek temperatury. Mamuty i mastodonty, a wraz z nimi i inne zwierzęta ginęły wszędzie, we wszystkich strefach klimatycznych, zarówno tam gdzie nastąpił nagły i znaczny spadek temperatury, jak i tam gdzie temperatura równie nagle znacznie wzrosła.</em><br /><br /><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Prawdziwą przyczyną zagłady zwierząt, zarówno na Syberii, jak i na Alasce, czy też na terenach obu Ameryk, mogła być jedynie woda. Nagłe wtargnięcie wód Oceanu Arktycznego daleko w głąb Syberii, a na tereny jej wschodniej części także wód Oceanu Spokojnego, spowodowało utonięcie przebywających tam zwierząt."</em><br />"POTOPY" Dr inż Jerzy Wojciech Piskorz-Nałęcki - rozdz. 5.1. Zagłada mamutów<br /><br />Nagłe wtargnięcie wód na skutek poślizgu płyt litosfery, oczywiście. Ta teoria dość dobrze tłumaczy nie tylko gwałtowne "śmierci" zwierząt ale też ich nagromadzenie, niekiedy w olbrzymich ilościach, wraz z drzewami, ziemią i lodem, a co określane jest nazwą "drewniane wzgórza".<br /><br />Na Syberii mają miejsce tzw. zimowe powodzie, np. zimą 1990/1991 r. w pobliżu miaseczka Kałgo. Na skutek 40 st. mrozu rzeka Anczar zamarzła do dna. Parcie wody z górnego biegu rzeki było tak duże, że spowodowało jej <strong style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">wybuch</strong>. Woda zalała znaczne obszary i <strong style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">natychmiast</strong> zamarzła.<br />("Piramidy na oceanie" Piotr Gągała-Sarmata)<br /><br />Więc może jednak potop. Potopy.<br /><br /> </div>
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Cywilizacja też była, choć może nie akurat głównie tam, gdzie dziś wieczna zmarzlina.<br />O cywilizacji współczesnej mamutom, a nawet wczesniejszej, pisałam w poprzednich notkach :)<br /><br />Potop mnie przekonuje, bo rzeczywiście nie wszędzie nastąpił tak znaczny spadek temperatury, a już na pewno nie taki, by wytłumaczyć to nagłe zamarznięcie. Nie wspomniałam o tym, ale odnaleziono nie tylko ryby w trakcie pożerania pozywienia. Te dobrze zachowane mamuty miały jeszcze nie tylko w żoładku, ale także w paszczy nieprzeżute całkiem resztki roślinne. Jeśli zwierzę by normalnie zdechło, to te resztki powinny się w krótkim czasie kompletnie rozłożyć, a nie zachować.<br /><br />A co do eksplozji nuklearnych, to przytoczyłam tę opinię jedynie jako ciekawostkę.<br />Nie wierzę w nią tak samo, jak nie wierzę Daenikenowi :)<br />Krater, którego zdjęcie pokazałam, moim zdaniem jest prawdopodobnie pozostałością po uderzeniu meteorytu.</div>
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Niebawem postaram się to dokładniej udokumentować.Mamy mamuty idąca w lewo,w prawo lub frontem do widza.<br />
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<br />Zenobiusz http://www.blogger.com/profile/17593381030988771709noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528385702135826.post-25500684737774679322018-10-15T15:10:00.000+02:002018-10-15T15:10:31.516+02:00Pierwsze obiekty które zwróciły moją uwagę Nasi przodkowie wychodzą z mroku...<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Nie jestem dobrym fotografem ,mam jednak nadzieję że się poprawię.<br />
W przebiegu badań powierzchniowych zebrałem kilkaset przykładów niewątpliwie drobnej rzeźby<br />
w terenie zaś zlokalizowałem obiekty i kilkutonowe.Cóż tu mamy mamuty ,juz jest ich prawie 100,ludzkie twarze,twarze rzekomych stadiów "przedludzkich",konie ,kaczki i wizerunki kobiet.i dzieciZwraca uwagę brak wizerunków tłustych nagich niewiast zwanych "Venus" .Tu kobiety są fantazyjnie ubrane.Widocznie pozycja kobiet była u nas inna niż w Niemczech i na innych terenach gdzie nagość i kult falliczny były ewidentne.U nas tego nie było,nawet wtedy gdy ciepło w nocy znajdowano śpiąc w cieple śpiącego obok mamuta.Jest to udokumentowane w rzeźbach.Tyle na gorąco jako sygnalizacja zagadnienia.<br />
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Niektóre obiekty w terenie nie dają się sfotografować wysyłając "aurę" jak na ostatnim zdjęciu.Zenobiusz http://www.blogger.com/profile/17593381030988771709noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528385702135826.post-611027864831736442018-10-15T13:56:00.000+02:002018-10-15T14:01:51.376+02:00Czy mozna w Polsce znaleźć potężny kompleks świątynny zmieniający wiedzą o wierzeniach naszych przodków przed 966 rokiem ?<br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; line-height: 1.7rem;"><span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: large;">Czy można w Polsce znaleźć potężny kompleks świątynny zmieniający wiedzę o wierzeniach naszych przodków przed 966 rokiem ?Można .Tu jedna z metod.Obiekt który odkryłem ujawnię gdy Polska będzie już w pełni wolna ,na razie pokażę niektóre smaczki związane z tym odkryciem.</span></span><br /><ol>
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Tej zimy, przez to, że rzadziej niż zwykle wybierałem się w teren, więcej czasu poświęciłem na podróże „palcem po mapie”. Doskonałym do tego okazał się Geoportal, na którym odkryłem ciekawe nietypowe funkcje. Dziś przygotowałem dla Was <span style="background: transparent; border: 0px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">instrukcję przeglądania mapy w trybie LIDAR<span id="more-2042" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"></span></span></div>
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Technologa LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) polega na lotniczym skanowaniu terenu krótkimi impulsami lasera, którego promień przenika praktycznie przez wszystkie naturalne przeszkody znajdujące się na powierzchni ziemi. W ten sposób powstaje obraz terenu, z którego zostały jakby zdjęte wszystkie drzewa, krzewy, trawy, mech czy liście.</div>
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<span style="background: transparent; border: 0px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Mapa lasu przedstawiona w trybie LIDAR</span> pokazuje obraz trójwymiarowy, na którym doskonale widoczne są wszelkie wzniesienia i zagłębienia terenu z dokładnością do około 15-30 centymetrów. Widać więc nawet to, co na żywo w lesie jest trudne do zobaczenia gołym okiem. Analizując obraz na ekranie komputera można zauważyć dokładny przebieg np. rowów melioracyjnych, dawnych budowli, wojennych okopów, ziemianek, bunkrów, kurhanów, współczesnych dzikich śmietnisk czy wyrobisk żwiru lub torfu.</div>
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Zainspirowany możliwościami, jakie dają mapy LIDAR, analizowałem wielokrotnie tereny już mi znane, jak i miejsca, gdzie jeszcze nigdy nie dotarłem. Pewnego razu na ekranie komputera wpadło mi w oko niezwykłe leśne jezioro w Lasach Garwolińskich o tajemniczym kształcie. Miało około 70m średnicy, było idealnie okrągłe, jakby ktoś nakreślił je cyrklem, a na jego środku znajdowała się równie idealnie okrągła wyspa.</div>
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<figure class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_2051" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px auto 1.5rem; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; width: 800px;"><a href="https://i0.wp.com/ludzkietropy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/jezioro-w-lesie.jpg" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #00b22d; cursor: pointer; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><img alt="Leśne jezioro" class="size-full wp-image-2051" data-attachment-id="2051" data-comments-opened="1" data-image-description="<p>Tajemnicze śródleśne jezioro</p>
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Gdyby znajdowało się blisko zabudowań to specjalnie kształt by mnie nie zdziwił, bo uznałbym to za np. za pozostałość jakiegoś dworskiego parku. Jezioro leżało jednak w środku lasu i to mnie zaintrygowało. Przełączając się na LIDAR zobaczyłem coś takiego:</div>
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W tym trybie wyglądało dosłownie, jakby stworzyli je jacyś kosmici <img alt="😉" class="emoji" draggable="false" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/11/svg/1f609.svg" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: none; display: inline; height: auto; margin: 0px 0.07em; max-height: 1em; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; width: 1em;" /> Na drugi dzień rankiem już siedziałem w pociągu, jadąc do tamtejszych lasów, rządny odkrycia tajemnicy…Po paru godzinach leśnej wędrówki i błądzenia po krzakach ujrzałem taki oto widok:</div>
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Na żywo okazało się, że tajemniczy akwen pokryty tego dnia cienkim lodem rzeczywiście wygląda dosyć niezwykle. Stworzony został z pewnością ręką człowieka, a nie przez naturę. Biorąc pod uwagę miejscowy grunt, obstawiam, że jest to dawne potorfowe wyrobisko. Tylko na prawdę ktoś musiał mieć fantazję, żeby w środku lasu kopać pod cyrkiel <img alt="🙂" class="emoji" draggable="false" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/11/svg/1f642.svg" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: none; display: inline; height: auto; margin: 0px 0.07em; max-height: 1em; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; width: 1em;" /> Możliwe też, że staw wykopała jakaś maszyna, której łyżka poruszała się na linie zakotwionej na środku wyspy…</div>
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Pomimo tego, że tajemnica nie rozwiązała się do końca, LIDAR okazał się pomocny w planowaniu tej spontanicznej wyprawy. Poniżej przedstawię jeszcze kilka innych ciekawych miejsc, które pokazuje ta technologia.</div>
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border: 0px; height: auto; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Okopy i ziemianki w widoku LIDAR" width="630" /></a><figcaption class="wp-caption-text" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Widok LIDAR – okopy i ziemianki frontu I Wojny Światowej na Mazowszu</figcaption></figure><figure class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_2055" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px auto 1.5rem; max-width: 100%; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; width: 631px;"><a href="https://i2.wp.com/ludzkietropy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kurhany-na-mapie-LIDAR.jpg" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #00b22d; cursor: pointer; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><img alt="Kurhany na mapie LIDAR" class=" wp-image-2055" data-attachment-id="2055" data-comments-opened="1" data-image-description="" data-image-meta="{"aperture":"0","credit":"","camera":"","caption":"","created_timestamp":"0","copyright":"","focal_length":"0","iso":"0","shutter_speed":"0","title":""}" data-image-title="kurhany na mapie LIDAR" data-large-file="https://i2.wp.com/ludzkietropy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kurhany-na-mapie-LIDAR.jpg?fit=729%2C467" data-medium-file="https://i2.wp.com/ludzkietropy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kurhany-na-mapie-LIDAR.jpg?fit=300%2C192" data-orig-file="https://i2.wp.com/ludzkietropy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kurhany-na-mapie-LIDAR.jpg?fit=729%2C467" data-orig-size="729,467" data-permalink="http://ludzkietropy.pl/mapy-lidar-pokazuja-co-jest-ukryte-w-lasach/kurhany-na-mapie-lidar/" height="404" sizes="(max-width: 631px) 100vw, 631px" src="https://i2.wp.com/ludzkietropy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kurhany-na-mapie-LIDAR.jpg?resize=631%2C404" srcset="https://i2.wp.com/ludzkietropy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kurhany-na-mapie-LIDAR.jpg?w=729 729w, https://i2.wp.com/ludzkietropy.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kurhany-na-mapie-LIDAR.jpg?resize=300%2C192 300w" style="background: transparent; 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Jeśli zainteresowała Was ta technologia, poniżej przedstawiam krótką <span style="background: transparent; border: 0px; font-weight: 700; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">instrukcję LIDAR</span>, z pomocą której samodzielnie możecie zbadać interesujące Was tereny:</div>
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1. Należy wejść na stronę http://mapy.geoportal.gov.pl/imap</div>
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2. W prawym górnym rogu zobaczysz trzy ikony w kształcie oka. Kliknij w największe oko.</div>
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3. Ukaże się tabela, na której kliknij ikonę z napisem WNS.</div>
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4. Wyświetli się tabela o nazwie Dodaj Mapę. Zaznacz na niej opcję WMTS.</div>
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5. Kliknij na znak + przy wierszu Usługi Krajowe WMTS.</div>
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6. Kliknij w wiersz ISOK Cieniowanie.</div>
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7. Kliknij przycisk Połącz.</div>
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8. Kliknij przycisk Dodaj.</div>
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9. Zobaczysz mapę Polski z naniesionymi na szaro mapami LIDAR</div>
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10. W tabeli Zawartość Mapy odznacz opcję Wizualizacja BDO.</div>
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11. Powiększ mapę i ciesz się widokiem LIDAR</div>
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Mam nadzieję, że moje wskazówki Wam się przydadzą w planowaniu leśnych wędrówek, odkrywaniu nieznanych miejsc i rozwiązywaniu tajemnic historii. Dajcie znać w komentarzach, jakby instrukcja była niejasna to wspólnie ją poprawimy.</div>
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Zenobiusz http://www.blogger.com/profile/17593381030988771709noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528385702135826.post-76958058583358902852018-10-15T13:23:00.001+02:002018-10-15T13:23:25.715+02:00Czy możliwe jest istnienie pradawnych rzeźb wykonanych z żelaza np.mamuta.Możliwe co dowodzi ten zapis.,i zdjęcie które zamieszczam obiektu ze zbiorów własnych.<br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Rzeźba z metalu i żużlu mamuta zidentyfikowana przez Adama Arkfelda, Clear Brook, Virginia</span></div>
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<b><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Rzeźba mamuta została znaleziona w </span></span><a href="http://portablerockart.blogspot.com/2014/05/arkfeld-site-baby-mammoth.html" style="color: #ffb86e; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">kontekście wielu przenośnych figurek z miotły rocka z miejsca Arkfeld # 44FK732</span></span></a><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"> .</span></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Mamut stoi na trzech nogach. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Czwarta noga rozpadła się, ale pozostał szczątek. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Nogi i kikut są metalowe według pana Arkfelda. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Pień mamuta jest projekcją z prawej strony.</span></span></b></div>
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<span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Właściciel strony i archeolog amator Adam Arkfeld przesłali na miejscu próbkę żużla z organicznymi nośnikami dla datowania radiowęglowego AMS i otrzymała datę> 43.500 lat wcześniej od Beta Analytic Labs. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Planuje kolejne testy randkowe. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Obecność węgla drzewnego w niektórych żużlach, jak pokazano powyżej, może pozwolić na określenie ram czasowych dla utworzenia obiektu. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ostatnie komentarze do tego posta autorstwa Alana Daya odnoszą się do tej informacji z witryny Beta Analytic Lab, która stała się częścią tego postu na dzień 9/9/2014: </span><a href="http://www.radiocarbon.com/detection-limits-AMS-lab.htm" style="color: #ffb86e; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">"Beta Analytic ustaliło rzeczywisty i konserwatywny limit ponad 43500 BP kiedy aktywność materiału jest statystycznie taka sama jak tło, jest to wiarygodna liczba w oparciu o własne wewnętrzne limity AMS laboratorium.W związku z tym Beta Analytic nie podaje skończonych czasów przekraczających 43500 BP. lub poniżej są zgłaszane jako "większe niż" 43500 BP. " </a><br /><a href="http://www.radiocarbon.com/detection-limits-AMS-lab.htm" style="color: #ffb86e; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><br /></a><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">" </span><a href="http://www.radiocarbon.com/detection-limits-AMS-lab.htm" style="color: #ffb86e; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">- Zasięg: od dzisiejszego dnia do 47 000 lat BP </a><br /><a href="http://www.radiocarbon.com/detection-limits-AMS-lab.htm" style="color: #ffb86e; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">- limity wykrywania: 47 000 BP</a><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"> " </span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Aktualizacja 10/08/2014: osobista komunikacja od Adama Arkfelda " </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Hranicky" style="color: #ffb86e; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">Jack (archeolog, który chciał pomóc panu Arkfeldowi)</a><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"> odbył rozmowę z jednym z techników w Beta i powiedziano im, że data podana na ostatniej próbie jest wiarygodnym minimalnym wiekiem, który zapewnił Jackowi, że data jest rozstrzygająca, ponieważ wynosi co najmniej 43.500. Facet jest przekonany, że próbka jest starożytna. na najbliższą prezentację w Richmond w ten weekend. " </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Technik zasadniczo mówi, że nie jest to tylko "szum tła" z nieskończonej przeszłości.</span></span><div>
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<span style="vertical-align: inherit;">W stereotypowej konwencji artystycznej, którą można zobaczyć na tym blogu i </span><a href="http://originsnet.org/" style="color: #ffb86e; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">udokumentowanej przez naukowców, takich jak James Harrod, doktorat, obraz twarzy lewego profilu został przerobiony na ten metalowy włócznię lub sztylet,</a><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"> gdy został wyważony. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Pozostałości po nim można wciąż oglądać. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Znaczniki podkreślają oko, nos i usta, które prawdopodobnie miały animować lub "potwierdzać życie" artefaktu. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ma dwa wyraźne nozdrza. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Dla tego autora obecność konfiguracji twarzy jest wskaźnikiem, że punkt włóczni nie został wytworzony w czasach historycznych. </span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">To naprawdę uśmiecha się.</span></div>
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<span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Cześć Ken ... </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Jest kilka intrygujących (jeśli poszlakowych) dowodów sugerujących prehistoryczne przetopienie metalu w Native American, pozornie (jak dotąd) w przedziale czasowym od wczesnego do środkowego lasu. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">W tym momencie osobiście uważam, że jest to dość silna hipoteza. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Jednakże, nie należy zakładać, że data radiowęglowa> 43 500 lat od próbki żużla wykazuje, że żużel pochodzi z plejstocenu. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Trzeba wziąć pod uwagę bardziej prawdopodobny scenariusz, że materiał został przetopiony antracytem, a nie węglem drzewnym, na początku antracyt ma zwykle miliony lat. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">(Jeśli dobrze pamiętam, nawet najnowocześniejsze randki AMS nie mogą dać dokładnego odczytu poza około 40 000 lat.) </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ale to są interesujące znaleziska! </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Mam nadzieję, że ich stratygraficzny kontekst z innym materiałem artefaktu jest dokładnie dokumentowany. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Pozdrawiam, Alan Day</span></span></div>
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<span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Każdy C-14 zniknął miliony lat temu w antracycie lub jakimkolwiek typie węgla i nie mógł zwrócić żadnych dat w testach, więc nie jest to możliwy scenariusz. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Moje zrozumienie z moich własnych kontaktów z Beta Analytic Labs polega na tym, że randki C-14 mogą trwać solidnie do 50 000 lat BP i nieco dalej. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Wyniki uzyskane w Arkfeld były zgodne ze standardowymi przestrogami wydanymi przez laboratorium w dowolnych randkach C-14. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Data> 33.500 jest niezależna i nie ma żadnego wskazania, że była ona nieprawdziwa lub uszkodzona. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Pan Arkfeld planuje więcej testów, więc być może uda się uzyskać dodatkowe potwierdzenie.</span></span></div>
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<span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Cześć Adam ... Dziękuję za twoje komentarze i moje przeprosiny za nieco powolne reagowanie. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Byłem zajęty i / lub zajęty w zeszłym tygodniu. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Po pierwsze, mam nadzieję, że nie sądzisz, że dyskredytuję starożytną witrynę, którą odkryłeś. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Wygląda całkiem realnie i jest raczej podobny do tych, które badałem (sporadycznie) tutaj w Ohio. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Zespoły artefaktów mają ze sobą wiele wspólnego i świetnie jest mieć oko na rzeczy - większość ludzi tego nie robi. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Mam jednak kilka sugestii, aby poprawić wiarygodność twojej pracy i stowarzyszenia, a także innych osób w naszym postępowaniu.</span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Mam nadzieję, że weźmiesz ich w zamierzonym duchu kolegialnym. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Prawdopodobnie nie ma potrzeby przechodzenia przez "złożoną logikę", którą przedstawiasz, ponieważ jej ścieżka jest prawie okrągła. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">W napotkaniu nagłówka z napisem "wycofać epokę żelaza", po którym następują zdjęcia (bez skali) kawałka żużla z otwartą (prawdopodobnie nieskalibrowaną) surową datą radiowęglową, nikt, kto ma dużo naukowego zrozumienia, nie zapyta go najpierw / sama "W jakim okresie ludzie rzeźbili mamuty w Ameryce Północnej?". </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ten utwór rzeczywiście wygląda jak mamuta, bardziej niż prawdopodobnie 98% przypuszczalnych północnoamerykańskich rzeźb mamuta, które widzę teraz w Internecie.</span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ale czy było to zamierzone? </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Być może mniej więcej równoległe metalowe wypukłości uformowały się w rozkwicie z bezpośrednią redukcją, ponieważ grawitacja pociągnęła żelazo z półpłynnego żużla. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Stosując metodę naukową, tak jak tu na pewno należy sformułować hipotezę (w tym przypadku, że w plejstocenie ludzie zajmowali się wytapianiem żelaza w miejscu Arkfeld), aby zostać przetestowanym przez uczciwą próbę obalenia ("sfałszowania") tego w prawdopodobny sposób. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Musi to uwzględniać scenariusze, takie jak wytapianie węgla (w dowolnym czasie w przeszłości) - a jeśli węgiel nie mógł być dostępny w pobliżu, możliwość wystąpienia w innym miejscu, artefakt został przetransportowany i poddany kuracji z powodu jego zoomorficzny wygląd. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">I oczywiście istnieje możliwość, że prehistoryczny węgiel drzewny, wystawiony na setki lat, został skażony materiałem "nieskończonej wielkości".</span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Mając dużo węgla drzewnego przyczepionego do żużla, jak pan opisuje, z pewnością oferuje możliwość wykazania powtarzalności. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ale za około 600 USD za datę AMS, upewnij się, że kontekst stratygraficzny jest dobrze udokumentowany i że próbki są chronione przed zanieczyszczeniem. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Dla większej pewności, możesz rozważyć posiadanie C-14 (węgiel drzewny lub cokolwiek innego) z żelaza datowanego (destrukcyjnego, niestety). </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Nie jestem pewien, czy Beta Analytic ma taką możliwość, ale laboratorium AMS z University of Arizona może to zrobić.</span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Zrobili to dla mnie kilka lat temu, zwracając wysokie statystyczne prawdopodobieństwo wieku Middle Woodland. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">(Nie jest to plejstocen, ale wciąż wystarcza, by jeden spalił się na stosie ...). </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Jeśli chodzi o> 43.500 daty: Beta Analytic stwierdza na swojej stronie internetowej, że jest to data, którą zgłasza, gdy próbka daje aktywność na poziomie lub poniżej poziomu hałasu wewnątrz akceleratora . </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Tj. Może istnieć lub nie być obecny C-14 - w każdym razie nie mierzalny. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Bardzo chcę usłyszeć, jak sprawy toczyły się na twojej stronie, Adam. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Masz tam coś interesującego! </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Pozdrawiam, Alan Day</span></span></div>
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<span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Cześć znowu, Adam ... </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Podnoszenie się tam, gdzie skończyłem: To bardzo interesujące, że odkrywasz obszerne dowody na hutnictwo żelaza. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">To jest ważne. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Na początek, musisz obiektywnie wykluczyć możliwość wczesnego kwitnienia drzewek historycznych za pomocą węgla drzewnego i rudy darniowej (lub hematytu?), Biorąc pod uwagę, że zostało to zrobione już w 1600 roku w Wirginii, choć podejrzewam, że było to głównie bliżej wybrzeża. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Stare artefakty mogą się pojawić wraz z nowszymi materiałami. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Nigdy nie zaczynaj od pożądanego wniosku, spróbuj dopasować dowody do tego - rzeczy są po prostu tym, czym są, i trzeba spróbować dowiedzieć się, co naprawdę się stało. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ale jak już wcześniej wspomniałem, istnieją niezbite dowody na prehistoryczne wytapianie tutaj w Ohio (szczególnie w rejonie Ross and Pickaway), często w pobliżu i w okolicach Bliskiego Lasu. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">"Zakładowi" archeolodzy tutaj po prostu odrzucają to jako "natrętną cechę", i dalej to idzie ... Możesz mieć dowody na prehistoryczne wytapianie, ale nie daj się zwieść na plejstocenie - jakiekolwiek niezbite dowody na prehistoryczne hutnictwo żelaza w Ameryka Północna oznaczałaby przepisanie historii! </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Twoje powiedzenie "wiaderka żużla i ściany pieca" sprawia, że czuję się trochę nieswojo, biorąc pod uwagę, że archeologia jest z natury procesem niszczycielskim, niszczącym pozostałe stratygraficzne / kontekstualne dowody. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Proponuję wycofanie się w tym momencie i próba zaangażowania, oprócz faceta, z którym pracowałeś, specjalistów w dziedzinie fizyki w odpowiednich dziedzinach; </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Myślę o geologach / petrologach, geomorfologach i - co bardzo ważne - o archeologowie. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">(Zastrzeżenie jednak: Niezależnie od dyscypliny zawodowej, stoisz przed przekonaniem, że rdzenni Amerykanie nie mają zdolności podniesienia temperatury ognia do temperatury wymaganej do wytopu żelaza, chociaż miało to miejsce tysiące lat temu w Europie, Azji i Afryce Nie kupuję tego pomysłu i najwyraźniej ty też tego nie robisz, ale na pewno biegniemy pod górę ...) </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Alan</span></span></div>
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<span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Aktualizacja 10/08/2014: osobista komunikacja od Adama Arkfelda "Jack (archeolog, który chciał pomóc panu Arkfeldowi) odbył rozmowę z jednym z techników w Becie i powiedziano mu, że data podana na ostatniej próbie jest wiarygodnym minimalnym wiekiem Zapewnił Jacka, że data jest rozstrzygająca, ponieważ wynosi co najmniej 43.500. Facet jest przekonany, że próbka jest pradawna, a Jack ogłasza datę na jego najbliższej prezentacji w Richmond w ten weekend. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Technik zasadniczo mówi, że nie jest to tylko "szum tła" z nieskończonej przeszłości. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Archeolodzy zgłaszają otrzymaną datę końcową> 43.500 jako znaczącą i nie przekraczającą limitu testów AMS. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ken Johnston przedłożył obiekt żużla węglowego z XIX wieku do testów AMS i nie zarejestrował się jako organiczny. </span><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Próbka żużla pana Arkfelda została potwierdzona jako aktywna substancja organiczna w ramach możliwości AMS. </span></span><br /><br /><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Inni z wiedzą na temat radiowęgla AMS są zachęcani do komentowania tutaj.</span></span></div>
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Zenobiusz http://www.blogger.com/profile/17593381030988771709noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528385702135826.post-13520603496125035852018-10-15T10:32:00.001+02:002018-10-15T10:32:48.829+02:00 na wordpressie ,blog przestanie być uzupełniany.<div class="post hentry" itemprop="blogPost" itemscope="itemscope" itemtype="http://schema.org/BlogPosting" style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 19.6px; min-height: 0px; position: relative;">
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<span style="color: #444444; line-height: normal;"><b>nie mam już dostępu do bloga i nie mogę tam zamieszczać nowych wpisów.</b></span></div>
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<span style="color: #444444; line-height: normal;"><b>Tak weięc zacznę zamieszczać je tu.</b></span></div>
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<span style="color: #444444; line-height: normal;">czwartek, 24 października 2013</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Wszystko wskazuje na to ,że nie będzie już Zenobiusza na wordpressie..Nie mogę wejść nie tylko na swój blog ale na żaden inny na wordpressie.Komuś bardzo przeszkadzałem ? Zobaczymy jutro,może to tylko awaria.</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: red; font-size: small;"><b>To nowe blogi,działające w pełnym zakresie.Czekam dalej na efekty odwołania,wysłałem kolejne.</b></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;"><b>Tu na bloggerze, też jak widać ,poczęstowano mnie jakąś sztuczką powodującą nakładanie się tekstu,tak że</b></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;"><b><span style="color: red;">-nowy zenobiusz !!! zaprasza:</span></b></span><br />
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<span style="color: red; font-size: small;"><b>Doradzają mi wystąpienie na drogę sądową ,było by to ciekawe,ale chyba nie dam się namówić.</b></span></div>
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If you are a Ukrainian, or of Ukrainian origin, in an English speaking country you can sometimes feel like you are in the film <em style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Invasion of the Body Snatchers</em>. People who see your name, ask where it’s from and on hearing you are Ukrainian, some of them parrot automatically some phrase that could be written in some airless office in the Kremlin. “You’re Ukrainian? They’re all Nazis aren’t they?” “Ukrainian? Isn’t that the same as Russian?” “Isn’t there a Nazi junta in Kyiv?” Their eyes glaze over and their voice is suddenly not that of a reasonable human being, but almost robotic. It’s like the world’s largest ventriloquist act, Russian chauvinism speaks without moving its lips. People are looking at you through a lens tinted with propaganda and all they see are shadows. I have found myself having to deliver historical lectures all to prove that I don’t have a swastika tattoo and yes, pinch me, I am real. It’s even worse when you open the pages of the Guardian and come across articles by Milne and Luhn which call your people Nazis, accuse Ukrainian soldiers of “killing and killing” and argue that your country should be allowed to die. I realise of course that many English speaking people do not share these views. However many of them, including leading politicians and journalists, do regard Ukrainians as fascists. Who put these words into their mouths? And how can Ukrainians use their unique experience of <a href="http://euromaidanpress.com/tag/russian-propaganda/" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Russian propaganda">Russian propaganda</a> to help the west defeat Putin?</div>
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Taras Shevchenko’s legacy, Ukrainian language, and the Ukrainian ‘national idea’ of the last two centuries … appear to be meaningless, second-rate or blasphemous to a large number of Russians. Generations of Russian intellectuals have turned belittling (sic) of the Ukrainian language and culture into a part of the Russian belief system, alongside anti-Tatar and anti-Muslim stereotypes. But whereas the latter are built around national differences, what makes Ukraine stand out in this list is a dismissive attitude to any assertion that national differences exist.</div>
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The Russian Empire, whether in its Tsarist, Soviet, or current form has striven to destroy Ukraine as a nation. The Valuiev Circular (1863), which placed restrictions on publishing in Ukrainian, articulated this existential blindness, this inability to see Ukrainians as “the other.” The document noted that “a separate Little Russian language has never existed, does not exist and cannot exist.” Putin in a conversation with George Bush has shown that this view had passed undiluted to him along with the double headed eagle and the imperial dreams of the Tsar. “You don’t understand, George, that Ukraine is not even a state. What is Ukraine? Part of its territories is Eastern Europe, but the greater part is a gift from us.” I recognize, of course, that not all Russians share this view. However, it is prevalent enough to dominate Russia’s foreign policy towards Ukraine as witnessed by the words of the Russian president. Russia’s aims move beyond destroying Ukraine now. Putin seeks to restore the Russian Empire while refashioning the world, shearing America from Europe, and dismembering the EU into easily dominated fiefdoms. Ideally, these would be ruled by mini fascistoid versions of himself. He is positioning himself as the global leader of social conservatism and in opposition to economic and social liberalisation. The propaganda machine will be used to further these aims by demoralising and destabilising the West. As Peter Pomerantsev noted in <em style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Foreign Policy,</em></div>
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You begin to see a very 21st century mentality, manipulating transnational financial interconnections, spinning global media, and re-configuring geo-political alliances. Could it be that the West is the one caught up in the “old ways,” while the Kremlin is the geopolitical <span style="background: transparent; border: 0px; font-style: normal; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">avant-garde</span>, informed by a dark, subversive reading of globalization?</div>
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The mechanisms which Putin has deployed for his attack include:</h2>
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This is a world where the old geo-political paradigms no longer hold. As the Kremlin faces down the West, it is indeed gambling that old alliances like the EU and NATO mean less in the 21st century than the new commercial ties it has established with nominally “Western” companies, such as BP, Exxon, Mercedes, and BASF. Meanwhile, many Western countries welcome corrupt financial flows from the post-Soviet space; it is part of their economic models, and not one many want disturbed.</div>
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Russia is moving to localize production of a vast number of Western products. The ties between Russia’s and Western power companies are well known.<br /><span class="dropcap" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Putin’s modern mechanism is building on centuries of prejudice. Derogatory views of Ukraine were originally transmitted into the West via cultural ties and literature. The Soviet Union and subsequently Russia launched a campaign to stigmatise Ukrainian national identity as “Fascist” or “Nazi.”</span></div>
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<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Networks of journalists and “experts”</strong> ranging from outwardly respectable figures such as Seumas Milne, to ones with a less healthy public image such as Slieboda.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Left wing sites such as Counterpunch and Global Research,</strong> which craft an alternative reality for their readers in which the swastika flies over Kyiv. The UK green movement denies the accusation of it being linked to Russia. However, Oliver Tickell, editor for The Ecologist, also writes for Counterpunch and in turn republishes Ukrainophobic articles from their site.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Political proxies</strong> such as<em style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"> Stop the War</em>, which oppose bombing Iraq but send up ragged cheers as shells fired by the “anti-fascist front” fall on Ukrainians in Sloviansk</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">PR Agencies and consultancies</strong> paying for web content.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">The <strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Troll army</strong> of paid internet commentators all working to a script.</li>
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Putin’s modern mechanism is building on centuries of prejudice. Derogatory views of Ukraine were originally transmitted into the West via cultural ties and literature. The Soviet Union and subsequently Russia launched a campaign to stigmatise Ukrainian national identity as “Fascist” or “Nazi.” This last element has developed into a key component of the current attack on Ukraine, which refers to the Revolution of Dignity as a coup undertaken by Nazis.</div>
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The most powerful weapons in Putin’s arsenal are of course financial and business links</h2>
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<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">disseminating conspiracy theories tinged with anti-Semitism to erode public trust in Western governments;</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">purchasing influence over politicians by granting them air time to gain support for Russia’s hostile actions towards other countries;</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">providing lucrative opportunities for journalists who then spread misinformation regarding the atrocities committed by Russia’s proxy terrorists;</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">softening up public opinion in the West to allow an invasion of Ukraine to take place and boost tolerance for subsequent genocide/ethnic cleansing by stigmatizing Ukrainian national identity.</li>
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The channel provides a forum for 9/11 truth seekers and has uploaded 56 videos promoting conspiracy theories on Youtube. The aim is to discredit the USA by suggesting that 9/11 was in fact executed by the American government. Russia Today complements this by providing a platform for Ry Dawson who is presented as a “human rights activist.” He is in fact a <a href="http://www.interpretermag.com/ryan-dawson-rts-human-rights-activist-a-holocaust-denier-whos-friends-with-hate-criminals/" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">notorious Holocaust denier</a> who is endowed with credibility by having his platform on the channel.</div>
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The troll army cannot be “out-tweeted.” We must discredit them by promoting awareness of these rather sad RUB tweet slaves. We must ensure that every pro-Kremlin tweet is automatically dismissed by most people by continuously publicizing this mindless, miserable internet army.</div>
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The channel provides air time to British politicians George Galloway and Nigel Farage. It is effectively providing a financial conduit for Russia to directly influence British MPs. In turn, they are molding public opinion to prevent Britain from condemning Russia’s attack on Ukraine. The Russian state hopes to simultaneously destabilize Britain by boosting support for parties on the extreme right and the sectarian left of the political spectrum. Globally, the channel is one of a number of tools deployed to achieve Putin’s geopolitical aims. After the MH17 crash, the propaganda got so bizarre that even some of RT’s reporters couldn’t stand it and<a href="http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/18/mh17-russia-today-reporter-resigns-sara-firth-kremlin-malaysia" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">resigned</a>.</div>
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There is no point simply challenging the lies pouring through this torrent of channels. We have to demolish the structures which Putin has created. This requires leadership from the global Ukrainian community and its allies. It demands an analysis of Putin’s machine to determine its vulnerable points. Ukrainians who have had years of verbiage to endure from Russia’s proxies have much to contribute here. It will demand the development of a strategy whose outlines we can see now. I will not deal with the obvious points about going after Putin’s money and achieving energy independence. The points below focus on tackling the propaganda machine:</div>
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<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Legislation must be passed</strong> barring politicians from receiving payments from foreign firms and lobbyists. Politicians who have ties to such agencies must be barred from office. The brands of companies which insist on doing business with Russia must be damaged by negative campaigning to highlight their ties to this unpleasant regime.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Russia Today must be banned</strong> from every country in which it operates. The content of the channel and its use as a tool of influence can be turned against it. We must also discredit every politician and journalist who has worked for them by exposing their lies. We must ensure that any editor is wary of employing paid agents of influence, by using these links to damage the paper’s brand. The Russia Today columnist Sara Firth resigned over the lies she was compelled to tell regarding MH17 and the channel’s directives to journalists such requiring they construct fake social network profiles. Let’s make sure that any paper is wary of damaging its image by employing people who have in all probability been paid to lie about and attack Ukraine. The Guardian has allowed unadulterated FSB fabrications to slip onto its pages. In the past they have published comments that were demeaning and denigrator towards Ukrainians and others. Let’s call them on it.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">The troll army cannot be “out-tweeted.”</strong> We must discredit them by promoting awareness of these rather sad RUB tweet slaves. We must ensure that every pro-Kremlin tweet is automatically dismissed by most people by continuously publicizing this mindless, miserable internet army.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">The press must be compelled to accept a <strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">code of practice on the representation of Ukrainians</strong> and other minorities. This is not about political correctness but about respect and ensuring that journalists do not incite antipathy towards ethnic minorities. Papers must adopt guidelines blocking the publication of articles on Russia-related themes by journalists who receive money from Russian entities.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Political proxies such as <em style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Stop the War</em> must be <strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">exposed and discredited</strong> at every turn. This will be relatively easy since their whole approach to Ukraine is based on enormous distortions.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">We must <strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">form alliances with other agencies</strong> who share our aims. There are British politicians who feel queasy at the extent of Russian influence in the UK. The LGBT community must not relish the possibility of Farage coming to power.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">We must <strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">promote Ukrainian culture</strong> and dispel the myth that it is second rate, an appendage. The perception of Ukrainian as inferior has facilitated an attitude of indifference and a lack of empathy for the country and its plight. If Ukraine exists in people’s hearts, if they treasure its culture, they will care about its fate. The Executed Renaissance is one of the most tragic but also most inspiring events in literary history. We must make sure that Ukraine’s writers and its voice are heard and that Antonych, Shevchenko, and Ukrayinka are as renowned as Balzac and Chekhov.</li>
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<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">The demeaning view of history where Ukrainians are essentially cast as the villains is based on distortion, exaggeration and omission. We need to <strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">work to promote, simply, the truth</strong>, particularly regarding the Holodomor. Ukrainians were overwhelmingly the victims rather than the perpetrators of crimes committed by Stalin. A series of campaigns which promote the truth will, along with Ukraine’s growing political power, help us bring about a paradigm shift. The signs of such a tectonic movement are already there in the work of Timothy Snyder. However there is much further to travel.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">We must <strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">expose the prejudice</strong> outlined in this article and, sadly, shared by so many Russians. The West has to realise that the roots of the largest genocide in a single European state lay in this ethnic hatred and that it was shared by great Russian authors such as Brodsky. At present western authors familiar with this denigratory attitude towards Ukrainians often condone or endorse such views. We must, by publicising the unpleasant comments of Balyckyj, Kaganovich and, shockingly, Brodsky ensure that it is viewed with disgust.</li>
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The destruction of the empire on the streets of Kyiv must be followed by the demolition of the empire in the Western imagination</h3>
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Putin is vulnerable because the hierarchical, hermetically sealed system he is pitting against globalization will not survive in an increasingly interconnected world. Its weakness was demonstrated when Russian denials of shelling Ukraine were undermined by Facebook postings by his own soldiers. I agree with Peter Pomerantsev that Putin has produced a reading of globalization and a strategy for defining Russia against the West. However, the Russian President’s view is that of man afraid of change, seeking to create a Russia of servile worker bees sealed from the light. This world will have its own enclosed media and internet while its elite glide the streets of London and Paris in Bentleys. The cracks are already showing and its great weakness, that it is based on creating a fictional view of the world founded on massive lies, can be used to destroy his propaganda apparatus. Putin believes in the power of the lie, as he said to a gathering of Jews recently, “The bigger the lie the more people will believe it”. He attributed the quote to Goebbels who he said was a “talented man… who achieved what he wanted.” The words were in fact spoken by Hitler and Goebbels ultimately committed suicide and killed his own children. Lies always catch up with you. Putin thinks they are a weapon in his arsenal but they are one of the tools with which we can excavate his political grave. Let’s grab a spade and start digging.</div>
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Ukraina W oczach Zachodu<br />(ale przez przyciemniane okulary rosyjskich):<br />Maszyna propagandowa Putina i jak go rozbić<br />Jeśli jesteś ukraiński lub pochodzenia ukraińskiego, w kraju anglojęzycznym można czasem poczuć się jak w filmowej Inwazja porywaczy ciał. Ludzie, którzy widzą swoją nazwę, zapytać, gdzie jest to od i słysząc jesteś ukraiński, niektóre z nich papuga automatycznie pewne wyrażenia, które mogą być napisane w jakimś biurze hydrodynamicznego na Kremlu. „Jesteś ukraiński? Oni wszyscy naziści nie są? „” Ukraińska? Czy to nie jest taki sam, jak rosyjski? „” Czy nie nazistą junta w Kijowie? „Ich oczy błyszczą, a ich głos nie jest nagle, że z rozsądnego człowieka, ale prawie roboty. To jak największej na świecie aktu brzuchomówca, rosyjski szowinizm mówi bez ruchu jego warg. Ludzie patrzą na ciebie przez pryzmat barwnych propagandy i wszystko widzą to cienie. Znalazłem się konieczności prowadzenia wykładów historycznych, by udowodnić, że wszystkie nie mam tatuaż ze swastyką i tak, ściśnij mnie, jestem prawdziwy. To jeszcze gorzej, kiedy otworzyć strony opiekuna i natknąć artykułów przez Milne i Luhn które nazywają twoi ludzie nazistów, oskarżają ukraińskich żołnierzy z „zabijanie i zabijanie” i twierdzą, że kraj powinien mieć prawo do śmierci. Oczywiście zdaję sobie sprawę, że wielu anglojęzycznych ludzi nie podzielają te poglądy. Jednak wielu z nich, w tym czołowych polityków i dziennikarzy, nie traktują Ukraińców jako faszystów. Kto umieścić te słowa w ustach? Ukraińcy i jak można używać ich unikalne doświadczenie rosyjskiej propagandy pomóc klęskę zachód Putina?</div>
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Problemem na początku jest to, że wielu Rosjan uważa, że Ukraina nie istnieje, a nienawidzą ukraińskiej tożsamości. Jak Bogomolov i Lytvynenko noty w 2012 Chatham House briefingu, ukraińskiego dziedzictwa kulturowego, który wiąże większość Ukraińców razem jako naród:</div>
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Dziedzictwo Tarasa Szewczenki, język ukraiński, jak i ukraińscy „idea narodowa” z ostatnich dwóch stuleci … wydają się być pozbawione sensu, drugorzędny lub bluźniercze do wielu Rosjan. Pokolenia rosyjskich intelektualistów okazały poniżanie (SiC) z języka i kultury ukraińskiej w ramach rosyjskiego systemu wierzeń, obok walki z Tatarami i anty-muzułmańskich stereotypów. Ale podczas gdy drugie są zbudowane wokół różnic narodowych, co sprawia, że Ukraina wyróżnienia w tej liście jest lekceważące podejście do każdego twierdzenia, że istnieją różnice narodowe.<br />Imperium Rosyjskiego, czy w carskiej, sowieckiej, lub obecnej formie starała się zniszczyć Ukrainę jako naród.Valuiev Circular (1863), który umieszcza ograniczenia publikacji w języku ukraińskim, przegubowe ten egzystencjalny ślepota, niemożność zobaczyć Ukraińców jako „inne”. Dokument zauważył, że „odrębne Mała rosyjski język nigdy nie istniał, nie istnieje i nie może istnieje. „Putin w rozmowie z Georgem Bushem wykazały, że pogląd ten przeszedł bez rozcieńczania do niego wraz z dwugłowym orłem i imperialnych marzeń cara. „Nie rozumiesz, George, że Ukraina nie jest jeszcze państwem. Czym jest Ukraina? Część jej terytorium to Europa Wschodnia, ale większa część to prezent od nas. „Uznaję, oczywiście, że nie wszyscy Rosjanie podzielają ten pogląd. Jednak jest to dość powszechne dominować polityki zagranicznej Rosji wobec Ukrainy, jak świadczą słowa prezydenta Rosji. Cele Rosji wyjść poza niszcząc teraz Ukraina. Putin dąży do przywrócenia imperium rosyjskiego podczas refashioning świat, strzyżenie Ameryki z Europy, i rozbicie koncepcji UE w łatwo zdominowanych lenna. Idealnie, to będzie rządził mini fascistoid wersji siebie. On jest pozycjonowanie się jako światowego lidera konserwatyzmu społecznego i w opozycji do liberalizacji gospodarczej i społecznej.Propaganda zostaną wykorzystane do realizacji tych celów poprzez demoralizację i destabilizację Zachodu. Jak zauważył Peter Pomerantsev w polityce zagranicznej,</div>
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Zaczniesz widzieć mentalność bardzo 21st Century, manipulacji transgranicznych połączeń finansowych, spinning globalnych mediów, i ponownie konfiguracja sojusze geopolityczne. Czy to możliwe, że Zachód jest jednym wciągnąć w „starych sposobów”, a Kreml jest geopolityczna awangardy, poinformowany przez ciemne, wywrotowej czytania globalizacji?<br />Mechanizmy, które Putin rozmieszczonych na jego ataku to:<br />Agentów wpływu.Motley załogi polityków, biznesmenów, członków rodzin królewskich; ktoś z dźwigni finansowej, która lubi duże wad gotówki i nie jest zbyt wybredny jeśli chodzi o, skąd pochodzi.<br />Jak zauważa Pomerantsev,</div>
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To jest świat, w którym stare paradygmaty geopolityczne nie trzymać. Jak Kreml jest skierowana w dół na Zachód, to jest rzeczywiście hazardu że stare sojusze takie jak NATO i UE oznacza mniej w 21 wieku, niż nowych powiązań handlowych, które ustaliła z nominalnie „zachodnich” firm, takich jak BP, Exxon, Mercedes, oraz BASF. Tymczasem w wielu krajach zachodnich witamy skorumpowanych przepływów finansowych z postsowieckim; jest to część ich modeli ekonomicznych, a nie jeden wielu chce przeszkadzać.<br />Rosja zmierza do lokalizacji produkcji ogromnej liczby produktów zachodnich. Więzi między Rosji i zachodnich firm energetycznych są dobrze znane.<br />Nowoczesny mechanizm Putina buduje na wieki uprzedzeń. Uwłaczające widoki Ukrainy zostały pierwotnie przekazane na Zachód poprzez więzi kultury i literatury.Związek Radziecki, a następnie Rosja rozpoczęła kampanię piętnować ukraińskiej tożsamości narodowej jako „faszystowskie” lub „nazistów”.</div>
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Sieci dziennikarzy i „ekspertów” od zewnątrz szanowanych figur takich jak Seumas Milne, do tych z mniej zdrowego wizerunku publicznego, takich jak Slieboda.<br />Lewej strony skrzydła jak Counterpunch i Global Research, który rzemiosło alternatywnej rzeczywistości dla swoich czytelników, w którym swastyka lecącego Kijowie.UK zielony ruch zaprzecza oskarżenie to jest powiązane z Rosją. Jednak Oliver Tickell, edytor ekolog, pisze także dla Counterpunch z kolei republishes Ukrainophobic artykuły z ich strony.<br />Proxy politycznych, takich jak zatrzymywanie wojny, które przeciwstawiają bombardowania Iraku, ale przesyła się poszarpane okrzyki jak pocisków wystrzelonych przez „anty-faszystowskie przodu” upadku na Ukraińców w Sloviansk<br />Agencje PR i konsultingowe płacą za treści internetowych.<br />Troll armia płatnych komentatorów internetowych wszystko działa na skrypcie.<br />Nowoczesny mechanizm Putina buduje na wieki uprzedzeń. Uwłaczające widoki Ukrainy zostały pierwotnie przekazane na Zachód poprzez więzi kultury i literatury.Związek Radziecki, a następnie Rosja rozpoczęła kampanię piętnować ukraińskiej tożsamości narodowej jako „faszystowskie” lub „nazistów”. Ten ostatni element stał się kluczowym elementem obecnego ataku na Ukrainie, która odnosi się do rewolucji godności jako zamachu podjętej przez hitlerowców.</div>
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Najpotężniejszych broni w arsenale Putina są oczywiście powiązania finansowe i biznesowe<br />Rosja Dzisiaj logo3 540×379 1 maszyna Putins propaganda i jak rozbić itWe może zrozumieć pewne elementy jego programu patrząc na centralnym maszyn Rosji: kanał Dziś Rosja.Analiza zawartości sugeruje, że Rosja Dziś służy kilku celom:</div>
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rozpowszechniając teorie spiskowe zabarwione antysemityzmu do zachwiania zaufania społeczeństwa do rządów zachodnich;<br />zakup wpływu na polityków poprzez przyznanie im czasu antenowego, aby uzyskać poparcie dla wrogich działań Rosji do innych krajów;<br />zapewnienia lukratywnych możliwości dla dziennikarzy, którzy następnie błędnych informacji dotyczących zbrodni popełnionych przez rosyjskich terrorystów proxy;<br />zmiękczenie opinii publicznej na Zachodzie, aby umożliwić inwazję na Ukrainie odbędzie się i zwiększyć tolerancję dla późniejszego ludobójstwa / czystek etnicznych przez piętnowania ukraińskiej tożsamości narodowej.<br />Kanał stanowi forum dla 9/11 poszukiwaczy prawdy i umieścił 56 filmów promowanie teorie spiskowe na YouTube.Celem jest, aby zdyskredytować USA, sugerując, że 9/11 był w rzeczywistości realizowane przez rząd amerykański. Rosja Obecnie uzupełnia to poprzez platformę Ry Dawson, który przedstawia się jako „obrońca praw człowieka”. On jest w rzeczywistości notorycznie den Holocaust, który jest obdarzony wiarygodności poprzez swoją platformę na kanale.</div>
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Armia troll nie może być „poza wpisów.” Musimy zdyskredytować je poprzez promowanie świadomości tych raczej smutnych niewolników RUB tweet. Musimy zapewnić, że każdy pro-Kreml tweety jest automatycznie odrzucona przez większość ludzi przez ciągłe nagłaśnianie tego bezmyślnego, nędzną armię Internetu.<br />Kanał udostępnia czas antenowy do brytyjskich polityków George Galloway i Nigel Farage. To jest skutecznie zapewniając przewód finansowej dla Rosji, aby bezpośrednio wpłynąć na brytyjską posłów. Z kolei ich formowania opinii publicznej, aby zapobiec Brytanię od potępienia ataku Rosji na Ukrainie.Państwo rosyjskie ma nadzieję jednocześnie destabilizacji Brytanię poprzez zwiększenie wsparcia dla osób na skrajnej prawicy i sekciarskiej lewej strony sceny politycznej. Globalnie kanał jest jednym z wielu narzędzi wykorzystywanych do osiągnięcia celów geopolitycznych Putina. Po katastrofie MH17, propaganda ma tak dziwaczne, że nawet niektórzy z reporterów RT nie wytrzymał i zrezygnował.</div>
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Więc co możemy zrobić?<br />prop maszynę propagandową Putins i jak go rozbić<br />Obraz z DZIŚ strony parodia Яussia: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/russhatoday" rel="nofollow" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">https://www.facebook.com/russhatoday</a><br />Nie ma sensu po prostu wyzwanie kłamstwa wlewając ten torrent kanałów. Musimy zburzyć struktury, które utworzone Putin. To wymaga od lidera światowego społeczności ukraińskiej i jej sojuszników. Wymaga to analizy maszyny Putina do ustalenia jego wrażliwe punkty. Ukraińcy, którzy mieli lat słownictwa znosić od pełnomocnictw Rosji mogą wiele wnieść tutaj. Zakłada ona rozwój strategii, której zarysy widzimy teraz. Nie będę sobie z oczywistych punktów o pójściu po pieniądze Putina i osiągnięcie niezależności energetycznej. Poniższe naciskiem na przeciwdziałanie maszynę propagandową punkty:</div>
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Przepisy muszą być przekazywane zakazu polityków od otrzymania płatności od firm zagranicznych i lobbystów. Politycy, którzy mają powiązania z takich agencji musi być wykluczony z urzędu. Marki firm, które domagać się robi interesy z Rosją musi być uszkodzone przez negatywnej kampanii, aby podkreślić swoje związki z tym nieprzyjemnym reżimu.<br />Rosja Dziś musi być zakazane z każdego kraju, w którym działa.Zawartość kanału i jego zastosowanie jako narzędzia wpływu może być włączony przed nim. Musimy także zdyskredytować każdy polityk i dziennikarz, który pracował dla nich, narażając ich kłamstwa. Musimy zapewnić, że każdy wydawca obawia zatrudniających płatnych agentów wpływu, korzystając z tych linków, aby zniszczyć markę papieru.Rosja Obecnie felietonista Sara Firth zrezygnował ciągu kłamstw była zmuszona powiedzieć odnośnie MH17 i dyrektyw kanału do dziennikarzy takich wymagających budują fałszywe profile w sieciach społecznościowych. Upewnijmy się, że każdy papier jest ostrożny uszkadzając swój wizerunek, zatrudniając ludzi, którzy z całą pewnością poświęcono kłamać i atakują Ukrainę.Strażnik pozwolił fałszowany FSB fabrykacjami poślizgu na swoich stronach. W przeszłości ich publikacji komentarzy, które były poniżające i denigrator wobec Ukraińców i innych. Nazwijmy je na nim.<br />Armia troll nie może być „poza wpisów.” Musimy zdyskredytować je poprzez promowanie świadomości tych raczej smutnych niewolników RUB tweet. Musimy zapewnić, że każdy pro-Kreml tweety jest automatycznie odrzucona przez większość ludzi przez ciągłe nagłaśnianie tego bezmyślnego, nędzną armię Internetu.<br />Prasa musi być zmuszone do przyjęcia kodeksu postępowania w sprawie reprezentacji Ukraińców i innych mniejszości. Tu nie chodzi o polityczną poprawność, ale o szacunek i zapewnienie, że dziennikarze nie zachęcają niechęć wobec mniejszości etnicznych. Dokumenty muszą przyjąć wytyczne blokujących publikację artykułów na tematy związane z Rosją przez dziennikarzy, którzy otrzymują pieniądze od jednostek rosyjskich.<br />Proxy politycznych, takich jak zatrzymywanie wojny muszą zostać odsłonięte i zdyskredytowane na każdym kroku. Będzie to stosunkowo łatwe, ponieważ całe ich podejście do Ukrainy jest oparty na ogromnych zakłóceń.<br />Musimy współpracować z innymi agencjami, którzy podzielają nasze cele. Są politycy brytyjscy, którzy czują mdłości w zakresie wpływów rosyjskich w Wielkiej Brytanii.Społeczność LGBT nie musi smakować możliwość Farage w dojściu do władzy.<br />Musimy promować kulturę ukraińską i obalić mit, że jest to drugi kurs, cyfrowy.Postrzeganie ukraińskim jako gorsze ułatwiło postawę obojętności i braku empatii dla kraju i jego trudną sytuację. Jeśli Ukraina nie istnieje w sercach ludzi, jeśli skarb jego kulturę, będą dbać o jego losie.Wykonane renesansu jest jednym z najbardziej tragicznych, ale także najbardziej inspirujących wydarzeń w historii literatury. Musimy upewnić się, że pisarze Ukrainy i jego głos słychać i że Antonycz, Szewczenko i Ukrayinka są tak znane, jak Balzac i Czechowa.<br />Poniżające wizja historii, w których Ukraińcy są zasadniczo oddanych jako czarnych charakterów jest oparty na odkształcenia, przesady i zaniechania. Musimy pracować, aby promować, po prostu, prawdy, zwłaszcza w kwestii Wielkiego Głodu. Ukraińcy byli w przeważającej mierze ofiary zamiast sprawców zbrodni popełnionych przez Stalina.Cykl kampanii promujących prawdę będzie, wraz z rosnącą siłą polityczną Ukrainy, pomoże nam doprowadzić do zmiany paradygmatu. Objawy takiego ruchu tektonicznego już tam są w pracy Timothy Snyder. Istnieje jednak o wiele dalej do podróży.<br />Musimy wystawiać uprzedzeń opisaną w tym artykule i, niestety, podzielane przez wielu Rosjan.Zachód musi zdać sobie sprawę, że korzenie największego ludobójstwa w jednym państwie europejskim leżał w tej etnicznej nienawiści i że został udostępniony przez wielkich autorów rosyjskich, takich jak Brodski. Obecnie zachodni autorzy zaznajomieni z tej denigratory często stosunek do Ukraińców czy poprzeć akceptujemy takie poglądy. Musimy przez nagłaśnianie nieprzyjemne komentarze Balyckyj, Kaganowicz i szokująco, Brodski zapewnić, że jest oglądany z obrzydzeniem.<br />Zniszczenie imperium na ulicach Kijowa musi następować rozbiórki imperium w zachodniej wyobraźni<br />Putin jest narażone, ponieważ hierarchiczna, hermetycznie zamknięty system on pit przeciwko globalizacji nie przetrwać w coraz bardziej połączonym świecie. Jego słabość wykazano, gdy rosyjskie zaprzeczenia ostrzał Ukrainę zostały podważone przez Facebook księgowań przez własnych żołnierzy. Zgadzam się z Peterem Pomerantsev że Putin przygotowała czytanie globalizacji i strategię definiowania Rosji wobec Zachodu. Jednak widok rosyjskiego prezydenta jest to, że człowiek boi się zmian, starając się stworzyć Rosję służalczych robotnic zamkniętych od światła. Ten świat będzie miał swój własny zamknięte media i internet a jego elita suną po ulicach Londynu i Paryża w Bentleys. Pęknięcia są już pokazano i jego wielka słabość, że jest on oparty na tworzeniu fikcyjną wizję świata opartą na masywnych kłamstwa, może być używany do niszczenia jego aparat propagandowy. Putin wierzy w moc kłamstwa, jak powiedział na spotkaniu z Żydami ostatnio „większe kłamstwo, tym więcej ludzi będzie w to uwierzyć”. Przypisywał cytat z Goebbelsa, który powiedział był „utalentowany człowiek … który osiągnął to, co chciał.” Słowa były w rzeczywistości wypowiedziane przez Hitlera i Goebbelsa ostatecznie popełnił samobójstwo i zabił swoje dzieci. Kłamstwa zawsze dogoni. Putin uważa, że są one w swoim arsenale broń, ale są one jednym z narzędzi, z których możemy wykopać swój polityczny grób. Miejmy chwycić łopatę i zacznij kopać.</div>
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Służba Bezpieczeństwa Ukrainy publikuje nagrania rozmów terrorystów na 2 minuty przed zestrzeleniem pokojowego samolotu pasażerskiego Boeinga-777 w dniu 17 lipca.<br />
Nagrania, między innymi, udowadniają, że terroryści z grupy podpułkownika GRU Sztabu Generalnego Sił zbrojnych Federacji Rosyjskiej I.Bezliera ("Biesa") wiedzieli o zbliżeniu samolotu. Podwładni zameldowali "Biesowi" o zbliżającym się samolocie. Po tym on oddał rozkaz przekazać to "na góre".</div>
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Дима боится, что у него сначала отберут Айфон, а потом Твиттер и Инстаграм:<a class="twitter-timeline-link u-hiddenVisually" href="http://t.co/YxdFDLxjqR" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">pic.twitter.com/YxdFDLxjqR</a></div>
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Магадан присоединился к федеральной программе „Подводные города России”. Программа шагает по стране: <a class="twitter-timeline-link u-hiddenVisually" href="http://t.co/AHwE9rmRqG" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">pic.twitter.com/AHwE9rmRqG</a></div>
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Олимпийский Сочи гордится своим продолжающимся участием в федеральной программе „Подводные города России” <a class="twitter-timeline-link u-hiddenVisually" href="http://t.co/zEtz6i9fTm" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">pic.twitter.com/zEtz6i9fTm</a></div>
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К федеральной программе „Подводные города России” присоединился олимпийский город-курорт Сочи: <a class="twitter-timeline-link u-hiddenVisually" href="http://t.co/ssEdRvbagx" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">pic.twitter.com/ssEdRvbagx</a></div>
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Polish bullet-proof vests for the National Guard could be destroyed; volunteers who purchased them could get up to 10 years in prison. According to the Open Dialogue Foundation, its volunteers have donated more than 270 bullet-proof vests for Ukraine’s Armed Forces, including those which they brought themselves across the Polish-Ukrainian border. This method of delivery is called “ant” and requires a lot of time and volunteers to deliver a significant number. On March 29, volunteers organized a large shipment of bullet-proof vests of the highest standard – Category 4 (NATO). However, the Polish Border Guard and Customs Service detained this humanitarian aid consisting of 42 bullet-proof vests. The reason was the lack of a licence for the supply of such equipment. At that time, the Foundation considered bullet-proof vests protective equipment. Subsequently, to the shipment of bullet-proof vests, 116 helmets were added and brought by other volunteers. The protective gear was purchased legally with money of volunteers collected with permission of the Polish government. According to Polish journalists, on Tuesday, July 22, Deputy Attorney of the city Zamost, who is charge of the case, changed the status of Roman Kushnir, Andrij Havunko and more than a dozen volunteers from the Foundation from that of witnesses to that of accused. Currently, the detained the driver and volunteers involved could face up to 10 years in prison for violation of customs legislation, and the equipment could be destroyed. “To solve the problem and to free Roman and Andrij, confirmation of the intended purpose of these bullet-proof vests from the<a href="http://euromaidanpress.com/tag/ukrainian-government/" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Ukrainian government">Ukrainian government</a> is required. Currently, we are awaiting a letter from the Government of Ukraine that the specified bullet-proof vests is charity, not subject to sale, and will be donated free of charge to units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,” reported the Foundation.<em style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Euromaidan Press Comment: It seems as if double standards exist within the EU. Volunteers can get 10 years in prison in Poland, an EU country, for supplying bullet-proof vests for the Ukrainian army. Ukraine is a victim of an undeclared war from the Russian side. But France, another EU member state, can supply <a href="http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/07/24/mistral-the-trojan-horse-of-europe/" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Mistrals</a> ships to the aggressor, Russia, and no one is in jail for this.</em><em style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Last month, Ukraine <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/23/exclusive-ukraine-asked-u-s-for-tech-to-counter-russia-s-jet-killers.html" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">asked</a> the United States and NATO for sensitive equipment to jam the radars that Russian anti-aircraft systems use to lock their missiles on planes. The US and NATO refused. If Ukraine had been provided with these systems, possibly the people on flight MH17 might still be alive.</em>Source: <a href="http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/07/24/7032916/" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Ukraiynska Pravda (Ukrainian)</a>Translated by Olena Wawryshyn, with Dmytro Usenko</div>
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- Zestrzelenie malezyjskiego boeinga nie było pomyłką, tylko wykonaniem rozkazu z Kremla - mówi Andriej Iłłarionow, były doradca Władimira Putina, w rozmowie z "Super Expressem". Jego zdaniem Rosjanie rozważali też samolot lecący z Warszawy, ale "śmierć Polaków nie byłaby wystarczająco wymowna".</div>
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- Jedyna wersja, która znajduje potwierdzenie w faktach, to ta o celowym dokonaniu zamachu terrorystycznego z rozkazu najwyższych władz rosyjskich - mówi w wywiadzie dla "Super Expressu" Andriej Iłłarionow, były doradca ekonomiczny Władimira Putina. Jego zdaniem nie było możliwości pomylenia malezyjskiego boeinga z ukraińskim samolotem transportowym ze względu na inną prędkość oraz pułap przelotu.<br />
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Jego zdaniem na odpowiedzialność rosyjskich władz wskazuje też ujawniona przez SBU rozmowa jednego z separatystów z rosyjskim dowódcą. Separatysta "był w szoku", gdy zorientował się, że zestrzelił cywilny samolot. - Z kolei rosyjski oficer reaguje na wszystko z ogromnym spokojem. Wygląda na to, że doskonale wiedział, w co wymierzono rakiety BUK - twierdzi Iłłarionow.<br />
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Iłłarionow stawia też tezę, że nieprzypadkowo zestrzelono właśnie samolot lecący z Amsterdamu. - Już dawno temu ludzie pracujący w sztabie generalnym mówili mi, że ich plany wojny nuklearnej zakładają w pierwszej kolejności atak na Amsterdam i Warszawę - mówi. Jego zdaniem wybrano Holandię, by "uniknąć skojarzeń ze Smoleńskiem"; ponadto "śmierć głównie Polaków nie byłaby wystarczająco wymowna". Iłłarionow zaznacza też, że żaden samolot z Warszawy nie leciał nad strefą konfliktu.<br />
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Andriej Iłłarionow jest ekonomistą i analitykiem był doradcą Władimira Putina w latach 2000-2005, obecnie to krytyk polityki Kremla.<br />
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<i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">After 23 years of corruption and decay, the Ukrainian army suddenly became incredibly necessary for the state and the people. A real military threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine raised the controversial issue of choosing between a modern army and losing territories bit by bit. Reformate is investigating how the Ukrainian Armed Forces changed in the recent months. </i></div>
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The Ukrainian military commissariats had not seen such a miracle before March 2014 – Ukrainian men were raring to serve in the army themselves, they did not hide or buy their way out of serving in the army like before. Something had to be done with this avalanche of potential soldiers.</div>
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After constant cuts, the army finally increased its numbers – thanks both to mobilization to the existing departments and the creation of new ones. The problem of increase was solved by the government of the country by renewing compulsory military service (on orders of the interim President) and waves of partial mobilization (March, May and July). However, the Defense Ministry frequently refused the volunteers that wanted to defend the Motherland with weapons in their hands, but mobilized those who did not burn with such desire. Bureaucracy and formalism…</div>
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Nevertheless, someone who wants to defend the country has somewhere to go today. New departments, which are mostly comprised of volunteers, in the short term augmented the military might of the Ukrainian army. So, a small tour of the newly-created military formations:</div>
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<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">The National Guard of Ukraine: </i>created in March according to the Law. Complied based on the internal army and the Maidan Self-Defense. According to the law, it has up to 60 thousand servicemen. The National Guard is not the army, and is subordinate to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. However because of its active participation in the ATO and obviously military functions we cannot forego mentioning it in the article. Four operative battalions of the National Guard have been created to participate in the war in the East, among which is the well-known “Donbas.”</li>
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<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Territorial defense battalions. </i>Their creation is prescribed the the Law regarding defense of Ukraine. Though it was passed on the even of independence on December 6th, 1991, several points were only enacted in 2014. Territorial defense battalions are comprised of volunteers and mobilized people, and are financed from local budgets and submit to the Defense Ministry of Ukraine. In the ATO zone, only “Aydar” is fighting on the frontline near Luhansk. The rest were created in case of full-scale<a href="http://euromaidanpress.com/tag/russian-aggression/" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Russian aggression">Russian aggression</a>. We hope that they will never be used for their purpose.</li>
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The Ukrainian army will be widened even further. According to the former acting Defense Minister of Ukraine Mykhailo Koval on June 18th, soon the Armed Forces will acquire a new department (or type of army) – a special ops force. Such troops exist in many European countries, in the US, Russia, Israel. Ukraine. Their task is to fight the terrorists and partisans, conduct sabotage and counter it, conduct intelligence activities. For the Ukrainian army such a department will be paramount – it is unlikely Russian undermining activity will end after peace is restored in Donbas and we still have Crimea to liberate.</div>
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The Ukrainian army has never been to war. What is more, leading theorists of the Ukrainian General Headquarters decided that it never will. And the “eastern direction” has never been outlined as a threat to Ukraine. In light of such pacifism, the army was robbed, divested of its assets and involved in building dachas for the generals. There had been no talk of tactics of contemporary warfare – the officers studied textbooks with a Soviet approach to warfare. Ukrainian soldiers and officers could only receive mere crumbs of military experience at international military trainings and during peacekeeping operations in Iraq, Liberia, Sierra-Leone, Kosovo, Bosnia.</div>
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The ATO was a cold shower for all “house generals.” Ignorance and lack of skills today lead to significant human losses. Unfortunately the new tactics and strategy of warfare is currently being written in blood in the East of Ukraine. Through success and mistakes the Armed Forces are accumulating priceless experience and tactical skills that are worth mentioning further:</div>
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<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">War in cities: </i>if the Ukrainian army was prepared for some sort of war, it was definitely the traditional kind – against a definite enemy and accumulations of their manpower, armored equipment. The necessity to wage war on our own territory, in cities, among big numbers of civilians, changed the tactics of battle. The Ukrainian army does not shoot at cities – only individual industrial districts the terrorists are based in. The siege tactic is being used widely and with moderate success – by cutting the terrorists off from their supplies and retreat paths.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Nighttime warfare: </i>the soldiers are forced to learn to fight at night both with special equipment (thermal vision equipment) and without it. The key is extreme vigilance at roadblocks, military guard, massive intelligence activity.</li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Fortification and masking: </i>the establishment of ATO departments in the middle of the field while ignoring all masking rules gave horrible results – for example, during the “Grad” shooting near Zelenopillya, at lease 23 soldiers died and up to 100 were wounded. Where the troops, even completely exhausted, dig trenches the right way, reinforce their bases and mask themselves, the losses among the organic units are minimal.<img alt="mmCPfyFjMNU Ukrainian army 2014: reborn from the Ashes " class="alignright" height="180" src="https://pp.vk.me/c618426/v618426943/10a8d/mmCPfyFjMNU.jpg" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; display: inline; float: right; margin: 4px 0px 12px 24px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Ukrainian army 2014: reborn from the Ashes " width="240" /></li>
<li style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Mining works.</i>When retreating the terrorists like mining everything on their path. The miners are receiving priceless but dangerous experience. One fact testifies to the efficiency of the Ukrainian miners – within a week in Sloviansk over 2000 incendiary devices have been diffused.</li>
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Within the recent months the Armed Forces and other formations participating in the ATO received a big amount of new ammunition, machinery, weans and other equipment. There is a huge lack of balance between the departments – while some may lack bulletproof vests, others have been supplied according to the standards of the U.S. special army service. This has to do with the hybrid supply system, which we will talk about in the next paragraph. So, what have the Ukrainian soldiers received during the ATO:</div>
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<i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Helmets – </i>the old Soviet helmets dating back to World War II had to be replaced. Now kevlar helmets with masking nets are “in fashion” – they can withstand AK-47’s and sniper rifles. The volunteers are taking the helmets through the border, sometimes literally wearing them.</div>
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<i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">BTR-3 </i>and <i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">4 – </i>the Ukrainian army has finally seen new Ukrainian BTR carriers. The new machines with protective nets can withstand a direct hit from an anti-tank missile – which was proved near Sloviansk. It is known that the Armed Forces received at least 4 new BTR’s, and the National Guard – 48. 58 more are expected in the nearest future.</div>
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<i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Unmanned aerial vehicles. </i>A new weapon that, it seems, only the most modernized armies of the world would have, is now being actively used in Ukraine. Several radio-piloted jets were bought by “Donbas” battalion. There are several types of unmanned vehicles at Ukraine’s disposal, among which is the “people’s UAV” – planned, constructed and bought using volunteer funds. The UAV’s are now being used only as intelligence devices and fire line correctors and cannot wage war alone. To be continued?</div>
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<i style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Thermal night vision equipment: </i>the Ukrainian soldiers lamented their nighttime “blindness” during the ATO. The terrorists were able to approach the roadblocks without hindrance, shoot at them and run away without being detected. This problem found a gradual solution: the volunteers started supplying the military units with modern thermal vision equipment (they convert thermal radiation into color) and night vision equipment (they amplify light emitted by objects). Of course, these are still insufficient, however the situation is no longer as critical.</div>
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The antiterrorist operation and the rebirth of the Ukrainian army would have been impossible without the volunteers. The Defense Ministry turned out to be an inflexible structure which was simply unprepared for a swift switch into warfare mode. The vast number of supplies was taken on by volunteers – civil activists, businessmen, regular impartial people and even oligarchs.</div>
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We can speak of an entirely new system of supplies – a hybrid one (in accordance with the term many experts use for the war Ukraine is involved in). Let’s try to systematize who and how supports the functioning of the ATO.</div>
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Of course, the main “donor” of various types of weapons is the Defense Ministry. After longtime tender competitions and bureaucracy the Defense Ministry also managed to send a big number of bulletproof “Korsar-4” vests – over 2 thousand, while the general order was 24 thousand.</div>
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Other spheres are dominated by structures that have nothing to do with the Ministry.</div>
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<a href="https://pp.vk.me/c618426/v618426943/10a84/4Sl8yiiVjCc.jpg" rel="prettyPhoto" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><img alt="4Sl8yiiVjCc Ukrainian army 2014: reborn from the Ashes " class="alignleft" height="145" src="https://pp.vk.me/c618426/v618426943/10a84/4Sl8yiiVjCc.jpg" style="background: transparent; border: none; display: inline; float: left; margin: 4px 24px 12px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Ukrainian army 2014: reborn from the Ashes " width="232" /></a>First, there are online volunteer groups – Army SOS, Wings Phoenix, Return alive etc. Having received experience during Euromaidan provisions, they transferred their activity to the departments of the Ukrainian army. They supply everything: food, water and medicine, bulletproof vests, night vision equipment, defense systems for the BTR’s and BMP’s. The volunteers become invaluable when it comes to supplies that cannot be done without contraband – for example, importing munition from European countries or Celox, which is an unlicensed drug in Ukraine, aimed to stop bleeding. All online groups have an “open accountability” – they report on the funds they collect and use.</div>
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Second, there are individual activists and coordinators. Many of them were active Maidan and AutoMaidan participants – Roman Synitsyn, Olexiy Arestovych, Vitali Umanets. They act on the same principle the groups do – collect money, buy the necessary equipment, bring them to the units, report on Facebook. As opposed to the Ministry of Defense, the activists don’t need to hold long-term tenders, do tons of paperwork, put aside money for bribes. They are working on the people’s trust and are asking the state do one thing only (as said by volunteer Diana Petrenya) – to no interfere with their work. And also to learn from their positive experience.</div>
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Third, territorial communities play a very important part in supplying ATO troops – as they are the ones financing territorial defense battalions and partially the army brigades from their oblasts.</div>
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Lastly, and most importantly, thousands of regular citizens are involved in supplying the Ukrainian army today. They regularly and irregularly bring food and water to the roadblocks. They use their own money to equip individual soldiers. They donate 5 UAH to the Defense Ministry by text – the law allows the Ministry to use these funds post factum. They buy state “military” obligations at 1000 UAH each. They donate money for the treatment and rehabilitation of the wounded. They simply help with care and their kind words.</div>
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The “popularity” of the Ukrainian army today is so impressive that it can be envied by all former and current communist regimes with their compulsory “popular” armies. To our mind, this is the key to the modern Ukrainian army’s success. The most important thing is for the attention to the armed forces not to wane at the end of the ATO. We hope that the government has understood one simple truth: the army is not just a symbolic attribute of sovereignty. It is the shield without which the state is completely defenseless, even if it is located in the center of “civilized Europe.”</div>
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Source: <a href="http://sprotyv.info/ru/news/2642-hod-ato-opasnost-golovokruzheniya-ot-uspehov" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Reformate</a>Translated by Mariya Shcherbinina</div>
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The Obama administration, detailing what it called evidence of <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/pro-russian-separatists-removed-bodies-from-crash-site-officials-and-observers-say/2014/07/20/be7bc2c4-0ff8-11e4-9285-4243a40ddc97_story.html" style="border-bottom-color: rgb(212, 212, 212); border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-width: 1px; color: #2e6d9d; text-decoration: none; zoom: 1;" title="www.washingtonpost.com">Russian complicity in the downing of a Malaysian airliner</a>, on Tuesday released satellite images and other sensitive intelligence that officials say show Moscow had trained and equipped rebels in Ukraine responsible for the attack.</div>
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Senior U.S. intelligence officials cited sensors that traced the path of the missile, shrapnel markings on the downed aircraft, voiceprint analysis of separatists claiming credit for the strike, and a flood of photos and other data from social-media sites.</div>
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The officials also for the first time identified a sprawling Russian military installation near the city of Rostov as the main conduit of Russian support to separatists in Ukraine, describing it as a hub of training and weapons that has expanded dramatically over the past month. The officials said that tanks, rocket launchers and other arms have continued to flow into Ukraine even after the downing of <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-plane-disappears-over-ukraine-feared-shot-down-by-missile/2014/07/17/0fffe1e6-0dcb-11e4-8341-b8072b1e7348_story.html" style="border-bottom-color: rgb(212, 212, 212); border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-width: 1px; color: #2e6d9d; text-decoration: none; zoom: 1;" title="www.washingtonpost.com">Malaysia Airlines Flight 17</a>, which <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/train-leaves-ukraine-war-zone-with-victims-of-malaysia-plane-black-boxes-handed-over/2014/07/22/5fc7bdc0-1168-11e4-98ee-daea85133bc9_story.html" style="border-bottom-color: rgb(212, 212, 212); border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-width: 1px; color: #2e6d9d; text-decoration: none; zoom: 1;" title="www.washingtonpost.com">killed 298 civilians</a>.</div>
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Analysts at the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies are continuing to examine information about the crash, but the officials said the intelligence assembled in the five days since the attack points overwhelmingly to Russian-backed separatists in territory they control in eastern Ukraine.</div>
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The senior intelligence officials said they have ruled out the possibility that Ukrainian forces were responsible for the attack.</div>
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“That is not a plausible scenario,” said one senior U.S. official, who noted that American intelligence agencies have confirmed that Ukraine had no antiaircraft missile system within range of the Malaysian flight at the time it was struck.</div>
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The official was one of three senior U.S. intelligence officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity during a briefing arranged for reporters in Washington to provide more detailed information on the assertions made by administration officials in recent days, as well as to rebut Russian claims.</div>
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“We are seeing a full-court press by the Russian government to instruct affiliated or friendly elements to manipulate the media environment to spread Russia’s version of the story,” the official said. “What this looks like again is a classic case of blaming the victims.”</div>
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Russia has denied that it had any role in the shooting down of the Malaysian plane or that it has provided the Ukrainian rebels with SA-11 antiaircraft missile batteries. Moscow has instead blamed the Ukrainian government for the crash. On Monday, Russian Defense Ministry officials claimed that a Ukrainian military jet was flying less than three miles from the Malaysian plane just before it was shot down.</div>
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The U.S. intelligence officials, who included experts on Russia’s military and its relationship with separatists in Ukraine, said they do not know the identities or even the nationalities — whether Russian or possibly defectors from Ukraine’s military — of those who launched the missile from an SA-11 surface-to-air battery.</div>
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Nor have U.S. spy agencies reached any conclusions on the motive for the attack, except to say that the reaction among separatists recorded on social media indicates they believed they were targeting a Ukrainian military transport plane.</div>
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In part, the officials said, that may have been because the rebels operating the missile battery were poorly trained and did not have access to other radar systems and equipment that ordinarily accompany an SA-11 system and are designed to help distinguish military targets from civilian planes.</div>
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U.S. officials said earlier that they had seen “indications” of advanced antiaircraft systems being moved into eastern Ukraine from Russia and being removed after the jet was shot down.</div>
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The senior intelligence officials said spy agencies were not aware that an SA-11 system was in eastern Ukraine until the attack had happened. They declined to answer questions about whether warnings about the Russian military buildup over the past month had been shared with international aviation authorities.</div>
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The officials also declined to provide more details on the satellites and other sophisticated sensors that enabled them to trace the path of the missile, citing concerns about compromising secret U.S. capabilities.</div>
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Still, the administration released information that had been kept secret until Tuesday, providing the most explicit illustration to date of the extent to which it has mobilized intelligence resources to track the conflict in Ukraine.</div>
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In particular, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released images taken of the Russian military facility near Rostov over the span of a month, before-and-after slides that the officials said showed a substantial buildup after Russia had pledged to pull back from Ukraine.</div>
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Russia has gone to significant lengths to disguise that flow of weaponry, the officials said, by delivering equipment that matches the inventory of Ukraine’s military. In some cases, the officials said, Russia appears to have pulled aging and inactive tanks out of storage because shipping newer ones would make it obvious that Russian arms were flowing into Ukraine.</div>
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“We think they’re continuing to do it” in the aftermath of the strike on the Malaysian aircraft, one of the intelligence officials said.</div>
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Russia appears to have “felt compelled to increase the level of support” for separatists, the official said,because Ukraine’s military has become increasingly effective against the rebels, retaking the city of Slovyansk.</div>
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In recent days, the Ukrainian government has posted online what it has described as incriminating communications among rebel leaders and units, calls and radio transmissions apparently intercepted by Kiev.</div>
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The U.S. officials said they have confirmed the authenticity of some of those recordings, including one in which the self-proclaimed defense minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Igor Strelkov, claimed responsibility for shooting down a military transport plane at the time the Malaysian aircraft was struck.</div>
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Analysis comparing that audio clip to other confirmed recordings of Strelkov’s voice “confirmed these were authentic conversations,” one of the officials said.</div>
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The officials noted that separatists had shot down aircraft on about a dozen other occasions over the past month — mostly helicopters and Ukraine military planes flying far below the 33,000-foot altitude at which the Malaysian flight was hit. Ukraine’s military, by contrast, is focused on the ground threat posed by separatists and has yet to fire on an aircraft, the officials said.</div>
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U.S. intelligence analysts have examined photos from the crash site and identified damage consistent with that caused by an SA-11 missile, the officials said, but they stressed that such analysis is preliminary.</div>
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The briefing also revealed the extent to which U.S. spy agencies are relying on Twitter, Facebook and other social-media sites to monitor the conflict.</div>
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The officials cited verbal exchanges among rebels posted on YouTube indicating separatists arriving at the scene of the wreckage were surprised to discover civilians.</div>
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“If you listen to YouTube you get that: ‘We’re finding civilians,’ ” one of the intelligence officials said. Partly for that reason, the official said, “the most plausible explanation to me is [it was] a mistake.”</div>
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<span style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: maroon; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Andriej Iłłarionow, ekonomista i były doradca Putina stwierdził w rozmowie z „Super Expressem”, że malezyjski boeing został strącony na rozkaz.</strong></span></h3>
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<span style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: maroon; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><strong style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">W ostatnich tygodniach ukraińska armia odnosiła coraz to nowe zwycięstwa w walce z tzw. separatystami. Wyzwoliła pół terytorium, na którym działali rosyjscy najemnicy. Każdego dnia odzyskuje kontrolę nad jedną czy dwiema miejscowościami na wschodzie Ukrainy. Dla rosyjskich władz stało się jasne, że to tylko kwestia kilku tygodni, kiedy Ukraińcy poradzą sobie z całym tym ruchem separatystycznym –</strong></span> powiedział Iłłarionow.</h3>
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W ocenie byłego doradcy Putina żadna z wersji tłumaczących przyczyny katastrofy nie jest prawdziwa. - Jedyna wersja, która znajduje potwierdzenie w faktach, to ta o celowym dokonaniu zamachu terrorystycznego z rozkazu najwyższych władz rosyjskich - stwierdził ekspert.</div>
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- Krążą opowieści jakoby separatyści mieli zestrzelić cywilny samolot przez pomyłkę. Miało im się wydawać, że to ukraiński samolot transportowy. Tylko że maszyny, których używa ukraińska armia, latają na wysokości do 7,7 tys. metrów i z prędkością do 540 km/h. Zestrzelony boeing leciał na wysokości 10 tys. metrów z prędkością 850 km/h. Ten, kto mierzył w ten samolot, musiał wiedzieć o tej różnicy. Nie można tych dwóch maszyn ze sobą pomylić – zaznaczył Iłłarionow.</div>
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Zenobiusz http://www.blogger.com/profile/17593381030988771709noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528385702135826.post-79895815000687061502014-07-24T10:50:00.001+02:002014-07-24T10:50:34.216+02:00Russia’s top 10 lies about downed Malaysia airliner<a href="http://www.examiner.com/list/russia-s-top-10-lies-about-downed-malaysia-airliner">http://www.examiner.com/list/russia-s-top-10-lies-about-downed-malaysia-airliner</a><br />
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The tragic downing of a Malaysian passenger plane sent Putin’s elaborate propaganda machine into overdrive, ultimately causing it to unravel. <a href="http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-intel-points-to-russian-rebel-missile-connection-in-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-crash-1405816389" rel="nofollow" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">The evidence points overwhelmingly at the terrorists</a>, whose leaders are Russian citizens, current and former members of the Russian armed forces and FSB.</div>
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In the past, their presence on the frontlines alongside the terrorists in <a class="inline_link" href="http://www.examiner.com/topic/ukraine" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">Ukraine</a>provided valuable advantage to the Russian media outlets. They were typically the first on the scene, filming the footage that would be shown on Russian television in short order. This powerful sword of immediate access to live events finally cut the other way on July 17, 2014. Russian media and the terrorists themselves were caught red-handed in making numerous misrepresentations and outright fabrications, intended to override their own previous admissions.</div>
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Here is a collection of the most outrageous <a class="inline_link" href="http://www.examiner.com/topic/lies" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">lies</a> with respect to the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/07/18/did-the-ukrainian-rebels-even-know-they-were-shooting-at-a-civilian-aircraft/" rel="nofollow" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">shooting down of the Malaysia airliner</a>.</div>
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The Malaysian airliner was shot down at approximately 17:30 (Moscow time). The wave of coverage commenced with the posting on the social media page of a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/11/world/europe/russian-seizes-authority-over-ukraine-rebels.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">Russian terrorist Girkin</a> (also known under his pseudonym “Strelkov”) at 17:50. Russia’s mainstream media routinely uses postings on this page as the primary source for their news stories. In his commentary, Girkin boasted that the terrorists managed to shoot down another Ukrainian plane, specifically mentioning what he believed at the time to be a Ukrainian AN-26 airplane, shot down in the area of Torez.</div>
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Girkin postured, <a href="http://www.peeep.us/1f23e83a" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">writing: “We warned you – don’t fly in our skies”</a> and followed up his comment with two videos, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhUkqs9CQ0w" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">depicting the aftermath of the crash</a>. A similar message was posted by one of Girkin’s cohorts, Pavel Gubarev (<a href="http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1394442656" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">also known as the Neo-Nazi Santa Claus</a>). After their closer inspection revealed that the terrorists had, in fact, shot down a civilian airliner, Girkin attempted to debunk his own earlier assertion with a bogus message allegedly broadcast by Ukraine’s President, Petro Poroshenko. In a garbled pidgin-Ukrainian (obviously written by someone who doesn’t speak the language), with numerous misspellings, President Poroshenko allegedly admitted that Ukrainian military shot down “the terrorist plane.” This desperate attempt at subterfuge would fail to impress even the most gullible readers.</div>
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In another failed attempt to hide his culpability, on July 17, 2014, Girkin claimed that the terrorists did not have any equipment capable of shooting down the aircraft traveling at the altitude of more than 4,000 meters. Only one day earlier, on July 16, 2014, Girkin boasted of the terrorists shooting down a plane that was traveling at an altitude of 6,000 meters. These obvious contradictions are self-explanatory. Tragic events of July 17, 2014, demonstrated that a group of drunken rag-tag bandits, headed by Russian intelligence officers and members of the military, should not be entrusted with weapons of any caliber, much less anti-aircraft missile systems.</div>
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One of the most bizarre exertions, blaming the Ukrainian military for allegedly shooting down the Malaysian airliner, was based on a claim that this was <a href="http://www.kp.ru/daily/26257.4/3136516/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">an attempt to murder Russian President, Vladimir Putin</a>. Networks reported that on July 17, 2014, the presidential plane took quite a bizarre round-about route across Ukraine, on its way from Warsaw, Poland to Moscow, Russia. <a href="http://russian.rt.com/article/41332" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">It was reported by Russia Today</a> (<a href="http://russian.rt.com/article/41334" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">more than once</a>), Komsomolskaya Pravda and <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%A6%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%8E+%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8B+%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B3+%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D1%8C+%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82+%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0+%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&rlz=1C1CHVZ_enUS513US514&oq=%D0%A6%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%8E+%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8B+%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B3+%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D1%8C+%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82+%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0+%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&aqs=chrome..69i57.208j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">a number of other Russian mainstream media outlets</a>. Russian aviation sources assert that Putin’s airplane never flies through Ukrainian airspace (particularly since the time Russia started fomenting unrest in the East of Ukraine this year).</div>
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Russian media networks proudly reported that so-called “rebels” again succeeded in shooting down a Ukrainian airplane. This act corresponded with <a href="http://usun.state.gov/briefing/statements/229455.htm" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">the pattern of terrorist attacks on Ukrainian aircraft</a>. On June 13th, terrorists shot down a Ukrainian transport plane, killing 40 paratroopers and 9 crew members. On June 24th, they downed a Ukrainian helicopter, killing all 9 on board. On July 14th, terrorists shot down a Ukrainian military cargo plane. On July 16th, terrorists downed a Ukrainian fighter jet. These attacks were praised and touted in the Russian mainstream media, as the victories of the imaginary “Novorussia” over the government of Ukraine.</div>
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LifeNews outlet, whose reporters proudly serve on the frontlines alongside terrorists, rushed to the scene. In the meantime, their network announced on Russian television that another Ukrainian plane was shot down by the “rebels.” They also published a corresponding article on their website. Once the network’s reporters discovered that the plane shut down by the terrorists was in fact a civil airliner, the article and the video were promptly removed (although<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjUpRD6yMYg" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">still available here</a>, side by side with the conflicting coverage that followed).</div>
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In the first clip, LifeNews proudly announced that “the rebels” successfully downed another Ukrainian plane, AN-26. In the subsequent coverage (on the same day, with the same host, wearing the same clothes), LifeNews claimed that civilian Malaysian airliner was shot down by the Ukrainian military.</div>
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It should be noted that since the beginning of this crisis, Ukrainian Air Force has not fired a single missile, despite several alleged violations of their airspace by Russian aircraft. Since Russian terrorists in Eastern Ukraine do not operate any type of aircraft in the area, there is no plausible explanation for the outrageous speculation that Ukrainian military would suddenly attack an airplane. Furthermore, a professional radar operator would have been able to distinguish between a civilian airliner and military aircraft.</div>
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Russian mainstream media proudly boasted that the terrorists had in their possession SA-11 missile systems, also known as the <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2014/07/20/what-is-a-buk-missile-at-a-glance/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile system</a>. For example, on June 29, 2014, <a href="http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1287030" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">ITAR-TASS news agency reported</a> that “rebels” gained control of a Buk missile installation. After the system was apparently used to shoot down the Malaysian airliner on July 17, 2014, <a href="http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1325289" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">ITAR-TASS reported</a> that none of the “rebels” in any of the self-proclaimed “republics” in Eastern Ukraine ever had the lethal and sophisticated Buk. Recent intelligence reports reveal that neither one of these stories were correct, since the weaponry used for the attack, along with the crew of operators, <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/07/20/eb-labott-mh17-buk-back-to-russia.cnn.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">was imported from Russia and later returned</a>.</div>
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“Russia One” television channel and other mainstream media in Russia would have you believe that <a href="http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=610346" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">OSCE has full trust in the “rebels”</a> and has been granted full access to conduct a thorough investigation. In reality,<a href="http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/121431" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">OSCE report complains</a> of “visibly intoxicated and aggressive” terrorists, who have given the investigators very limited access. Journalists on the scene report that victims wallets have been completely emptied, their belongings were looted and corpses ignored, while the terrorists <a href="http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2014/07/18/exclusive-corpses-ignored-looting-mh17-crash-site/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">took shameless selfies on-site</a>.</div>
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The same terrorists who first <a href="http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1401081/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">proudly boasted they had the Buk system</a>, then categorically denied it after shooting down MH17, <a href="http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1149301/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">now say they do have Buk</a>, but it is “broken.” It should be noted that the terrorists previously claimed that should Buk malfunction, <a href="http://politikus.ru/articles/24368-chem-sbili-an-26.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">they could easily fix it up</a> and use it to shoot down planes “like taking candy from a baby.” <a href="http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1741703" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">Russian news media gushed</a> about the so-called “rebels” who will “guard the skies” with their new Buk system. Russian Twitter trolls, <a href="http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-this-week-lurid-anti-ukraine-propaganda-broadcast-on-state-tv/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">working in tandem with propagandists</a> and the media, spread “happy news” about <a href="https://twitter.com/SantaFantik/status/488845800655839232/photo/1" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">repaired Buk being ready for use</a> as of July 14, 2014.</div>
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Russian mainstream media often relies on unnamed social media users and self-proclaimed experts, without fact-checking any of their claims. Russia Today found someone claiming to be "Carlos," an alleged Spaniard, working as an air traffic controller in Kyiv’s international airport, Borispol. Without ever fully identifying himself, “Carlos” Tweeted in Spanish that Ukrainian jets were following the passenger plane and shot it down. Numerous prominent news outlets picked up this ridiculous story, including television channel Russia 24, the Defense Ministry's Zvezda channel, Rossiiskaya Gazeta and Komsomolskaya Pravda.</div>
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No one found it suspicious that a foreigner would be working in a Ukrainian airport and live-Tweeting ridiculous claims, while not speaking either Russian, Ukrainian or English languages (<a href="http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/127516-amenazar-controlador-espanol-ucrania-crisis" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">Russia Today had to interview him in Spanish</a>). Minimal fact-checking would have revealed that <a href="http://www.avia.gov.ua/documents/diyalnist/Obslugovuvannja-povitrjanogo-ruxu/24291.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">Ukrainian authorities do not hire non-citizens of Ukraine as airport dispatchers</a>, or even accept them for training as such. As usual, Russia Today was unperturbed by these minor details. <a href="http://russian.rt.com/article/41346#ixzz37lFL6pk1" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">On July 17, 2014 Russia Today acknowledged</a> that the unidentified “Carlos” ran a fake Twitter account, which had been deleted. Two days later, on July 19, 2014,<a href="http://russian.rt.com/article/41579" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">Russia Today again cited “Carlos” as their primary source</a> in another article. </div>
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Notorious Girkin birthed one of the most outlandish allegations, claiming that all of the passengers on the Malaysia flight were already dead, prior to the plane being shot down. To buttress this allegation, Russian media raised the question of why the passports of the victims appeared to be so clean, as though they were brand new. This red herring may indeed impress some people in Russia, where the passport has to be shown <a href="http://myslo.ru/news/tula/vozle-musornih-bakov-budet-dezhurit-politsiya?utm_source=myslo_VK" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">even when you’re simply taking out the trash</a>. This approach is drastically different from the West, where the passport is used mainly for international travel. Girkin likely borrowed this twisted tail of “corpses on a plane” from a <a href="http://bakerstreet.wikia.com/wiki/A_Scandal_in_Belgravia" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">British TV Series, “Sherlock.”</a> Girkin’s lame attempt of convincing the world that his group of merry terrorists didn’t murder hundreds of innocents, “because they were already dead,” only magnifies their obvious culpability.</div>
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Russia’s Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, Lt. Gen. Andrey Kartopolov and Chief of the Air Force Main Staff, Lt. Gen. Igor Makushev <a href="http://rt.com/news/174496-malaysia-crash-russia-questions/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank" title="http://rt.com/news/174496-malaysia-crash-russia-questions/">participated in a media conference in Moscow on July 21, 2014</a>. Their attempts at deflecting the blame were less than subtle. Russia’s military officials asked traditionally loaded questions along the lines of the infamous presupposition: “When did you stop beating your wife?” One of the chief claims in this presentation <a href="https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/491244765082820608" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank" title="https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/491244765082820608">was cited by Russia Today as follows</a>: “Why did #Ukraine SU-25 fly same path as #MH17, simultaneously at same altitude?”</div>
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Furthermore, technical specifications of the SU-25 list its service ceiling as 7,000 meters (22,965 feet) unarmed or <a href="http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su25/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank" title="http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su25/">5,000 meters (16,000 feet) when armed to the max</a>. The Boeing 777 was flying at the altitude of 33,000 feet. Russian military officials explained this glaring disparity by stating that the SU-25 can fly as high as 10 km (32,808 feet) “if it wants to.” Someone should notify <a href="http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/military/su25k/lth/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #0088cc; text-decoration: none;">the manufacturers</a> that they’re selling themselves short, according to SU-25’s magic powers to overcome its own technical limitations.</div>
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Grigoryev’s photos on VK.com are geo-tagged, and apparently were taken in the Matveevo-Kurganskiy district of Rostov region, Russia.</div>
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We remind that previously Ukraine repeatedly claimed <a href="http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/07/17/provallia-in-flames-details-on-russian-rocket-strike/" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Provallia in flames, details on Russian rocket strike">shelling of its territory from Russia</a>.</div>
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For instance, at night on July 23 Ukrainian anti-terrorist forces twice came under Russian rocket fire in the border regions.</div>
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Zenobiusz http://www.blogger.com/profile/17593381030988771709noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-608528385702135826.post-89436552858478078612014-07-23T13:50:00.000+02:002014-07-23T13:50:01.962+02:00Rosja Putina to hańba dla Europy i świata<br />
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<a href="http://kresy24.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/boeing-ukraina-rosja-katastrofa.jpg" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><img alt="boeing-ukraina-rosja-katastrofa" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-54258" height="319" src="http://kresy24.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/boeing-ukraina-rosja-katastrofa-480x319.jpg" style="background: transparent; border: none; clear: both; display: block; height: auto; margin: 0px auto 12px; max-width: 100%; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" width="480" /></a>Dopiero pięć dni po katastrofie do Charkowa przyjechał z terenów kontrolowanych przez separatystów pociąg z wagonami chłodniczymi wiozącymi ciała ofiar malezyjskiego Boeninga. We wtorek przywieziono ok. 200 worków ze szczątkami, ale nadal nie są to wszystkie ciała.</div>
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Z miejsca katastrofy nadal nie zebrano wszystkich ludzkich szczątków – ostrzegają międzynarodowi eksperci. Teren nie został należycie przeszukany. Na poboczu drogi nadal leżą ludzkie szczątki w plastikowych torbach, których nikt nie zabrał.</div>
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„Nigdy nie widzieliśmy naprawdę intensywnego przeszukiwania miejsca katastrofy: ludzi idących ramię w ramię przez pola – powiedział przedstawiciel misji <a class="st_tag internal_tag" href="http://kresy24.pl/tag/obwe/" rel="tag" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Zobacz wiadomości na temat: OBWE">OBWE</a>. Nie wdrożono skutecznych kroków zabezpieczających i do tej pory przybyła tam tylko niewielka grupa międzynarodowych ekspertów.</div>
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Czy zachodnia cywilizacja jest wobec takiej Rosji bezradna? Czy znów, jak po zamachu na życie polskiego prezydenta i polskiej elity politycznej, „w trosce o pokój” haniebnie przymknie oczy na wyczyny kremlowskiego watażki?</div>
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Podarowali Putinowi czas do wtorku. Potem „fundamentalnie zmienią podejście do Rosji”?</h1>
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O dalszych krokach, jeśli Rosja się temu żądaniu nie podporządkuje, ministrowie spraw zagranicznych krajów członkowskich UE będą debatować… we wtorek.</div>
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Wcześniej brytyjski premier ostrzegł, że jeśli Władimir <a class="st_tag internal_tag" href="http://kresy24.pl/tag/putin/" rel="tag" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Zobacz wiadomości na temat: Putin">Putin</a> nie zmieni swojego stosunku do Ukrainy, „Europa i <a class="st_tag internal_tag" href="http://kresy24.pl/tag/zachod/" rel="tag" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; color: #743399; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Zobacz wiadomości na temat: Zachód">Zachód</a> będą musiały fundamentalnie zmienić swoje podejście do Rosji”.</div>
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Już czas, sprawić, by „liczyły się potęga, wpływ i zasoby Europy” – przekonywał Cameron w artykule opublikowanym w „Sunday Times” i zaapelował, żeby przekuć gniew po czwartkowej katastrofie malezyjskiego samolotu w działanie.</div>
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Skrytykował również niektóre kraje Unii Europejskiej za zbyt opieszałą reakcję na postępowanie Kremla: „Zbyt długo zbyt wiele europejskich krajów było niechętnych, aby stawić czoło następstwom tego, co dzieje się we wschodniej Ukrainie”.</div>
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Ale wbrew prasowym deklaracjom Davida Camerona Putin znów dostał w prezencie trochę czasu. Do wtorku, zanim za jego przyzwoleniem międzynarodowi eksperci dostaną zgodę na dostęp do miejsca katastrofy, można zrobić całkiem dużo…</div>
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